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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 08:29 PM
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I'm extremely eager to get ahold of the product.
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 08:32 PM
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by lolachampcar
So Jeff, why do you think those Pettit people have that completely out of control over the top outrageous idle requirement?
Because the blower isn't clutched, so it is simultaneously putting 8 - 12 hp of load on the crank and pulsing the intake (making the MAF very unhappy).
The Int-X go around that by being MAP-based.

The OE applications for the Lysholm employs a clutch for good reason.

Originally Posted by lolachampcar
Jeff, you show up on non AP threads talking up the AP.
But I do not turn up in EFIDude-titled threads talking about the AP. Its not the same thing and my patience for your shenanigans has expired.

Originally Posted by R-Styles
Will the AP work with my German 8 or do I have to buy an US spec PCM? Does a US spec PCM work with the rest of my german car?
The AP is not set up to support non-USDM cars. I don't think Cobb has any history of supporting non-USDM cars, so a PCM swap may be the only way to get that done. I don't know.

Originally Posted by R-Styles
If so, very nice because I have huge problems with my EMU setup ...
What is wrong with your EMU setup? The pressure signal? (is that you? - I get people confused)

Originally Posted by brillo
Jeff,

as far as the MAF being a tuning issue, so long as the stock MAF was used with a pipe the same diameter and the stock screen, does the intake tube length matter as far as tuning? You made a comment about this earlier and I'm not sure I completely followed your response.
I believe it might. Just like people have idle issues with different intakes, so might the tuning go.
However, I haven't found a combination that drastically affects power.
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 08:48 AM
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Since Pettit is the only FI using the maf(I think i am correct here?) I too am concerned (as previously identified) about the maf tube. I would be glad to share with you how I have been able to use the RB cold air scoop thing, the rb filter/horn/screen and pipe with only slight modifications to the pettit a/w intercooler(to make room) and to the RB stuff. I do not use the revi box.
I believe RB's set up will be the best so far in getting cooler air in a smooth consistent flow to and past the maf.
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 08:49 AM
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Pretty interesting reading on
http://reviews.hspn.com/articles/112...STi/Page7.html

Just found out a few things, including that you can make use of a wideband and boost sensor in the street tuner.
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 10:17 AM
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by mysql
Pretty interesting reading on
http://reviews.hspn.com/articles/112...STi/Page7.html

Just found out a few things, including that you can make use of a wideband and boost sensor in the street tuner.
Good reading. Thanks for posting.
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by olddragger
Since Pettit is the only FI using the maf(I think i am correct here?) I too am concerned (as previously identified) about the maf tube. I would be glad to share with you how I have been able to use the RB cold air scoop thing, the rb filter/horn/screen and pipe with only slight modifications to the pettit a/w intercooler(to make room) and to the RB stuff. I do not use the revi box.
I believe RB's set up will be the best so far in getting cooler air in a smooth consistent flow to and past the maf.
olddragger
Olddragger I'm trying to visualize your setup.

You are using the RB cold air duct with the Mazda standard box and then RB filter/horn/screen?

Or are saying you basically cut out the RB box in some way and used everything else from the RB intake (air duct, filter, horn, screen)?

I know you are not a picture orientated guy, but pics would help in this case. Obviously, you would have to post them in a different section or the Pettit section.
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by olddragger
Since Pettit is the only FI using the maf(I think i am correct here?) I too am concerned (as previously identified) about the maf tube.
With the AP (and all of the flash solutions), everyone will be using the MAF.
So, MAF tube size, scaling and transition will be very important.
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 08:32 PM
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MM, i figured you were full of it... you cant sell until cobb releases...but no biggie....im used to waiting
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 08:37 PM
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No, I can sell the units today.
I'm just not doing anything until I get back from Denver.
From Trey on the 20th:
"Once you give me the OK, we can send you out production AccessPORTs ready for you to tune. All we're waiting on for our release is to validate the mapping, which should be end of this week."
Cobb hasn't released the software yet, so you would be stuck with my tuning. I'll have N/A tunes available the week of the 17th.
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 08:41 PM
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so i could buy the accessPort unit and flash the N/A tune on my 8, and then if i go FI later on just reflash it again for free?
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by \\Konig\\
so i could buy the accessPort unit and flash the N/A tune on my 8, and then if i go FI later on just reflash it again for free?
Free? Only if you tune it yourself. You will need the software, though.

Initially, I am concentrating on FI applications on the 6-port. I will work on N/A apps the following weeks.
I am only going to offer the AP to people with whom I have direct access or to customers that can budget to bring me out to tune them.

Once the tunes are "universal", I'll offer those along with the AP.
My tuning will be locked, so you will need the software (which isn't available yet) and will have to start from scratch.

At some point, I imagine there will be freeware tunes available. Just not from me.
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
No, I can sell the units today.
I'm just not doing anything until I get back from Denver.
From Trey on the 20th:


Cobb hasn't released the software yet, so you would be stuck with my tuning. I'll have N/A tunes available the week of the 17th.
so mid march?
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 08:58 PM
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Ja, i am waiting to see his set up too.
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 09:11 PM
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Can we raise the OEM rev limit from 9000? The 9300 rev limit in the RB flash is an addictive feature, as silly as it may seem. I'd be nice to have that in the AP flash (for N/A tune).

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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 09:19 PM
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So all FI cars using this will be running with the maf being active? This is REALLY going to be interesting. I bet there will be a lot of data logging going on. Will there be anyone that can do a remote custom tune after analyzing data collected?
exciting times.
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by olddragger
So all FI cars using this will be running with the maf being active? This is REALLY going to be interesting. I bet there will be a lot of data logging going on. Will there be anyone that can do a remote custom tune after analyzing data collected?
Yes and yes.

If I sent you a tune on an AP, you could send me a datalog and some notes and I could send you a re-tune.
This will be a "subscription" service and will reduce the need for the software for the end users who are not comfortable tuning themselves.
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 10:09 PM
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this gets more interesting / provocative..


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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 10:22 PM
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Let me clear all this up a bit.
I'm really, really tired because I haven't slept much in the past few days.
That is how exciting this is to me. I know, that's kinda sad, but I've been looking forward to this device for 2 years.

Cobb will let me sell the units immediately. I'm taking one more week to be absolutely certain that it is safe, does what I want it to do and will be the ultimate (pun intended) solution to the engine management question mark for streetable forced induction RX-8s.

The MazdaManiac program will work like this:
You purchase an AccessPORT from me and I will include map(s) that are appropriate for your application at no additional cost.
You can then, for a nominal fee, purchase a subscription for unlimited updates for 8 week blocks. You datalog, take notes, make requests and I customize the maps and send them to you.
This eliminates the need for the software for those that might not want it.
In the near future - when the AccessTUNER Race software becomes available, you will be able to do your own tuning.
This program will, I think, make the most of what is available and let people get in and get their feet wet with a solution that is open-ended and upgradeable.
I think for many people, just having the ability to have your fans come on sooner, raise your idle, increase your OMP volume, turn off ALL of the CELs permanently and have a smoother, leaner running engine will be reason enough to want one of these. The power will follow and you will be ready to go should you decide to go FI in the future.

I hope this made sense.

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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
I'm really, really tired because I haven't slept much in the past few days.
That is how exciting this is to me. I know, that's kinda sad, but I've been looking forward to this device for 2 years.
Damn right. We all know the feeling. In a very real sense, your pain is our gain



Cobb will let me sell the units immediately. I'm taking one more week to be absolutely certain that it is safe, does what I want it to do and will be the ultimate (pun intended) solution to the engine management question mark for streetable forced induction RX-8s.
You're running around FI with only a reflashed PCM, right? If you can survive a full day of tuning like that, I'd say to hell with another week! But I'm not one who does well waiting for things.


You can then, for a nominal fee, purchase a subscription for unlimited updates for 8 week blocks. You datalog, take notes, make requests and I customize the maps and send them to you.
How did the "8 week block" time frame come to be? Just a safe number, or does it take a while to dial in?

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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 10:29 PM
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that makes perfect sense. thank you!
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 10:31 PM
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new toys keeping you awake bunky???? the horror

you enjoy it..

keep up the good work.

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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Let me clear all this up a bit.
I'm really, really tired because I haven't slept much in the past few days.
That is how exciting this is to me. I know, that's kinda sad, but I've been looking forward to this device for 2 years.

Cobb will let me sell the units immediately. I'm taking one more week to be absolutely certain that it is safe, does what I want it to do and will be the ultimate (pun intended) solution to the engine management question mark for streetable forced induction RX-8s.

The MazdaManiac program will work like this:
You purchase an AccessPORT from me and I will include map(s) that are appropriate for your application at no additional cost.
You can then, for a nominal fee, purchase a subscription for unlimited updates for 8 week blocks. You datalog, take notes, make requests and I customize the maps and send them to you.
This eliminates the need for the software for those that might not want it.
In the near future - when the StreetTUNER software becomes available, you will be able to do your own tuning.
This program will, I think, make the most of what is available and let people get in and get their feet wet with a solution that is open-ended and upgradeable.
I think for many people, just having the ability to have your fans come on sooner, raise your idle, increase your OMP volume, turn off ALL of the CELs permanently and have a smoother, leaner running engine will be reason enough to want one of these. The power will follow and you will be ready to go should you decide to go FI in the future.

I hope this made sense.
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 10:32 PM
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Makes sense Jeff! Will you be doing anything in regards to MAF setup on Pettit kits so they will have optimal performance w/ this, or would that be too much on your plate right now??
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