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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mdw1000
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If they get 4-port support working, they can have my sister for sexy time.
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mysql
Hmmmm, we should take bets on this thread:

1. To see how long it takes for Pettit crew to bash Jeff for not knowing what he's doing.

2. To see how long till 50% of them make use of his work.

Am I being too cynical? Or just a realist?
This would make sense if Jeff were trying to market this over in the Pettit threads. As it is, he isn't, so I don't see the connection to this thread.

Now if any of the "Pettit crew" were to come to another thread(like this one) for the sole purpose of being internet ****-disturbers, that would be ridiculous for many reasons.
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mdw1000
Wow, I didn't realize it would have OMP control capability. As Borat would say, "very nice!"

If they get 4-port support working, they can have my sister for sexy time.
Pics?
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Daemos
Pics?
You want to see pics of a OBD port?
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by morkusyambo
This would make sense if Jeff were trying to market this over in the Pettit threads. As it is, he isn't, so I don't see the connection to this thread.

Now if any of the "Pettit crew" were to come to another thread(like this one) for the sole purpose of being internet ****-disturbers, that would be ridiculous for many reasons.
I believe Jeff has visited EFIDude related threads and crapped on them. What's the difference? It just seems like the thing to do, right?
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 03:53 PM
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Looks great!

Can't wait to see the product for sale!
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by lolachampcar
I believe Jeff has visited EFIDude related threads and crapped on them. What's the difference? It just seems like the thing to do, right?
except he actually has enough knowledge to do so reasonably....
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by lolachampcar
Show up at the dyno in West Palm Beach on Monday and take part in generating NA reflash results.
Lola -

You are thread crapping. In case you didn't notice, the header on this thread is "AccessPORT", not "EFIDude". Talk about that in your own thread.

Originally Posted by tdiddy
So what boost levels is this stage of the flash good for? Are you turing the fuel pump on any earlier? What size injectors is this flash configured for? Any other details you would care to share?
I can configure for any size injector and boost all the way up to double the N/A flow.

Originally Posted by mysql
And do we know the final price tag? Same as the subies?
Should be the same as the Subies. The AP is $695. I don't know the price of the software, but you won't need it unless you really want it.

Originally Posted by mysql
Hmmmm, we should take bets on this thread:

1. To see how long it takes for Pettit crew to bash Jeff for not knowing what he's doing.

2. To see how long till 50% of them make use of his work.
1) Almost immediately, I'm sure.
2) 50%? I'm going for 100%.

Originally Posted by heyarnold69
mmm. Ill take that and a coke.
You want fries with that, too?

Originally Posted by olddragger
[i] am a Pettit person and i have never blashed Jeff about his work. So dont try and start something up mysgl.
Thanks, Denny. You are (like Phil) atypical, unfortunately.


Originally Posted by olddragger
Jeff --good work and i know the maf controlled FI guys have particular requirements.
True, but with the AP, that would be ALL of us since there is no MAP sensor.

Originally Posted by olddragger
how strongly is Cobb/yourself going to standardize the maf pipe requirements(size, screen or no screen, true cai or not etc)
or will that be a part the system can learn?
If your car will idle on the OEM PCM with your current MAF, the rest is a piece of cake.
For the Pettit, this will be a big challenge since it won't idle because the blower isn't clutched (like a twin-screw needs to be on a street application). The idle is addressed on its own from the load maps, so it won't be an issue.


Originally Posted by olddragger
Also how will traction control and the dsc be done---oem? tweaked?
For now, they are not addressed because they don't figure into the performance equasion.


Originally Posted by olddragger
Could we get one fan to turn on lower --say at 180F?
I turn mine on at 195°F, but you could turn them on all the time if you wanted to. You can control them separately, just like the OE control - because it is the OE control.


Originally Posted by olddragger
Can we get a faster idle than oem --personnel reasons I like an idle at 1K in my car.
I cranked mine up to 850 RPM. It is very smooth. You shouldn't need anything any higher, but since the Pettit idle is so dismal because of the high load, you could put it wherever you want. You could idle at 4k if you wanted to!


Originally Posted by olddragger
Injector cut on no load?
You mean coast-down? You can adjust anything that has a table. If the OE PCM does it, you can change it.


Originally Posted by olddragger
fuel pump variability?
The fuel pump is already load-based, so you could just change the load point. The current build doesn't have it, but it will be in the next build on Monday or Tuesday.

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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 05:21 PM
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ok, so you're saying you can just scale the values for the injector sizing and it will run properly?
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 05:36 PM
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Yep. There is a scaling value for all three injector banks. You just dial it up or down.

Also - the coils don't make any difference to the tuning as far as I can tell.
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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ok. I'm sold.
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 05:54 PM
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looks like the ap will be worth the wait....
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 05:55 PM
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Great info Jeff --thanks.
you are right about the load at idle and unfortunately(as far as idle purposes go) i also have a light flywheel
All these feature sure will be nice. I can even set a soft cut redline were I want it also
I wonder how long my learning curve would be? Or maybe i would be just as satisfied with a pre made map. I like a conservative tune anyway.
Damn i feel 5 yrs younger--now if I can JUST get this new engine in
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Up to 850? What was your idle prior?
Between 790 and 810.
The OE target is 800.

Originally Posted by chancejat
looks like the ap will be worth the wait....
No wait. Its available now. Just let me know when you are ready.
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
No wait. Its available now. Just let me know when you are ready.
Are you saying i can give you the money now and you can send me a cobb ap?
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
The only thing that will probably need to be tweaked for the Pettit people is the outrageous idle requirements.
So Jeff, why do you think those Pettit people have that completely out of control over the top outrageous idle requirement?
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by chancejat
Are you saying i can give you the money now and you can send me a cobb ap?
+1....
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Lola -

You are thread crapping. In case you didn't notice, the header on this thread is "AccessPORT", not "EFIDude". Talk about that in your own thread.
Jeff, you show up on non AP threads talking up the AP. I do not have a problem with it. As the ultra smart guy that you are, I am certain you can figure out that your rules apply to you as well unless you truly are special.

As for this thread, I am enjoying it. It really seems like Cobb has done their homework.
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by pdxhak
+1....
+1 as well
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 06:33 PM
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don't wanna say I told you so, but ...
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 07:50 PM
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Jeff,

as far as the MAF being a tuning issue, so long as the stock MAF was used with a pipe the same diameter and the stock screen, does the intake tube length matter as far as tuning? You made a comment about this earlier and I'm not sure I completely followed your response.
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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Please allow me to introduce myself...

To all,

My name is Christian Krahenbuhl, I am a trainer, one of the calibrators at Cobb Tuning, and I manage the AccessTUNER Professional network. We have set up a company blog and I also have a personal section there for myself that you are welcome to read through to get a better idea about our company and myself. We have extensive experience with tuning Subarus, Mitsubishis, Nissans, & Mazdas through the OEM ECU. I am also familiar with calibrating various stand alone ECUs on rotary and piston engines. As you know, we are getting closer and closer to releasing the AccessPORT for the RX-8. I wanted to make myself available to answer any questions you may have concerning the AccessPORT and the AccessTUNER Professional software. I will be paying attention to this and many other forums so please allow me sufficient time to respond.

I will be working with Jeff (MazdaManiac) and other tuners across the U.S. in order to help them better understand the various aspects of using the stock EMS for generating calibrations. I look forward to answering your questions. As with many new products that we release, we cannot expect to get everything absolutely perfect with the initial release of a product. We appreciate your feedback and we want to make sure we understand your expectations of our products for the RX-8. We have set up this link on our forums to help us directly communicate with our RX-8 AccessPORT end users. Please feel free to register there.

Take care,
Christian.

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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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Thanks Christian, on behalf of the forum, we certainly appreciate what you guys have done for the RX8 community.
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 08:25 PM
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Welcome Christian. Putting the AccessPort in Jeff's hands was an excellent decision.

I'm extremely eager to get ahold of the product.
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