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Old 05-07-2009, 02:34 PM
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i hate you jedi ... HATE! HATE! HATE!

but hopefully we shall soon get our very own chance very soon
Old 05-07-2009, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Flashwing
Not trying to add anything to MazdaManiac's work load but if I was a customer I would be flipping logs back to him as soon as you can.

Get your calibration, load it up...drive for a day which should allow your trims to settle in and get a new set of logs back to him. I understand some people had their cars in storage for the winter but waiting several weeks between submissions only limits your opportunity to get the best tune possible.
those were my intentions when i got my AP a lil over month ago, but then the weather got hot and i was wondering how well does the PCM correct for cold weather. I know from owning an FD youd hate to tune in the warmer/hot months and then have to drive the car in the cooler winter air and screw up your AF, which could mean a new engine.
would it be such a big, possibly dangerous, discrepancy on the 8?
also how would adding a catback/headers affect the cal/tune?
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you'll be fine with the 8.
You won't be tuning SO close to the edge that weather changes would run the risk of popping the engine.
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note to self: update when I get home.
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I don't know what they changed, so you might not want to bother if everything is working OK.
Probably just added some new international ROMs to the library.
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note to self: do not mess with AP. Working as intended...
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Wow. No way that's true.
Dead serious bud.

Originally Posted by laythor
I was thinking the same thing. there's no way he's ever had a girlfriend.
Bastard
Old 05-07-2009, 06:18 PM
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Dead serious bud.

So, at least you got to PIITB before dumping her right?
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So, at least you got to PIITB before dumping her right?
I actually had to Google PIITB... I'm bad with internet acronyms.
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Originally Posted by treceb
those were my intentions when i got my AP a lil over month ago, but then the weather got hot and i was wondering how well does the PCM correct for cold weather. I know from owning an FD youd hate to tune in the warmer/hot months and then have to drive the car in the cooler winter air and screw up your AF, which could mean a new engine.
would it be such a big, possibly dangerous, discrepancy on the 8?
also how would adding a catback/headers affect the cal/tune?
Jedi is correct. The car takes the coolant temperature and intake air temperature into consideration in regards to calculated load. More so the intake temp than coolant IIRC. Most importantly is the PCM will limit your calculated load with higher intake air temps so if you're tuned during the summer months then winter will be fine.

A cat-back exhaust isn't going to effect too much with regards to your air/fuel ratio and headers from an N/A standpoint shouldn't either.
Old 05-10-2009, 10:38 PM
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MazdaManiac, Question. I'm on map 4.0.1 now. and my car runs better, but still bogs under boost really bad. in your email it says you want idle, cruise, and Wot. but I can't Wot at the moment. can I just send you my cruise and idle?
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PLEASE FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS


What do the instructions say about WOT? Boost?

"Bog"? Is it rich? Is it lean? Is it knocking?
Old 05-11-2009, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
PLEASE FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS


What do the instructions say about WOT? Boost?

"Bog"? Is it rich? Is it lean? Is it knocking?
It is Rich, and sputtering soon as boost is reached, but i'll attempt a wot.
Old 05-11-2009, 10:52 AM
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^^what map are you on? What did you recenlty change to your tune/car?
Old 05-11-2009, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by marcux
It is Rich, and sputtering soon as boost is reached, but i'll attempt a wot.
And that is how I will see it in a data log.
Old 05-11-2009, 01:51 PM
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Ok, will do then. I was just worried my ap says it's 11.2 afr and sputtering I didn't know if it would hurt my engine to WOT being so rich.
Old 05-11-2009, 01:54 PM
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my ap has gone down to 11.2 and even 11.0 sometimes and i havent gotten any stuttering at allll, weird.
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Originally Posted by marcux
Ok, will do then. I was just worried my ap says it's 11.2 afr and sputtering I didn't know if it would hurt my engine to WOT being so rich.
Uh, 11.2 isn't rich. That is where I tune for on the first few iterations.
In some ranges, I'll work the AFR out to 12.3:1 or so, but only if you live in a place where the gas isn't crap.

If it is sputtering at 11:1, you have some other mechanical issue. It will still fire all the way down to 9:1 or so.
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Originally Posted by marcux
Ok, will do then. I was just worried my ap says it's 11.2 afr and sputtering I didn't know if it would hurt my engine to WOT being so rich.
Do you have BHR coils? 11.2-11.8 is where I run in WOT under boost. Never had a problem.
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Originally Posted by police34
Do you have BHR coils? 11.2-11.8 is where I run in WOT under boost. Never had a problem.
And that is perfect.
12.3:1 is the maximum power range, but for most people on street fuel, this is the ragged edge and requires less ignition timing to be safe.

I tuned my car for 12.3:1 and found that, on the dyno, the power at 11.3:1 was only slightly lower, but I could run a bit more ignition timing (which made more torque) and I didn't have to worry about bad gas.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
And that is perfect.
12.3:1 is the maximum power range, but for most people on street fuel, this is the ragged edge and requires less ignition timing to be safe.

I tuned my car for 12.3:1 and found that, on the dyno, the power at 11.3:1 was only slightly lower, but I could run a bit more ignition timing (which made more torque) and I didn't have to worry about bad gas.
When I get the updated map/s for the BHR coils for the FI guys do you think I should stay in the same AFR range or try to run around 12.0-12.3:1 ?
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Originally Posted by police34
When I get the updated map/s for the BHR coils for the FI guys do you think I should stay in the same AFR range or try to run around 12.0-12.3:1 ?
I'd leave it alone.


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