Gas/Oil Premix Thread
#301
Rotary lover
I am also going to do the premix
lett us know on the Royal purple TCW111 as that is what i am thinking about as well.
Guys can you please help me
we are in SA and work in ml and Liters, i know one quart is 0.945L
but how much is a oz. I cant find a convertor table on it yet.
If i premix in mL I was thinking of about 150 ml per full tank. (400:1)
1 oz = ??? ml ?
Thanks guys
Philip
lett us know on the Royal purple TCW111 as that is what i am thinking about as well.
Guys can you please help me
we are in SA and work in ml and Liters, i know one quart is 0.945L
but how much is a oz. I cant find a convertor table on it yet.
If i premix in mL I was thinking of about 150 ml per full tank. (400:1)
1 oz = ??? ml ?
Thanks guys
Philip
#302
#303
Originally Posted by mysql101
the answer is...
1 US fluid ounce = 29.5735297 ml
#305
Got Another Rotary
Originally Posted by CURED RX8
I also plan to continue premix in the gas tank, because of what has been reported by those who have taken the rotary engine apart and seen the parts that don't get lubricated because of how/where the OMP pumps the oil in. Plus the pump could fail. Extra lube, extra parts being lubed, extra protection...three good reasons anyone should premix.
How many engines have failed due to lubrication issues? I have not heard of any.
How many have failed due to carbon buildup (causing exhaust port clogging and rotary seals sticking and killing compression)? Pretty much every failed engine.
So, what you have to ask yourself is, do you feel lucky, punk? (oops, slipped into old movie cleche' mode).
What you have to ask yourself is, are you going to continue to love your engine to death due to your lubrication paranoia?
Rant finished - where's my chill pill?
#306
I bought a bottle of Super Tech Outboard 2-cycle engine oil at Wal-Mart today. It says it's TC-W3 but I see no note of synthetic or castor. Is this stuff ok to use for pre-mix or should I keep looking?
#307
Originally Posted by Jax_RX8
How many engines have failed due to lubrication issues? I have not heard of any.
Carbon buildup can also cause issues, but put in some cleaners and redline it a bit to fix.
#308
In my real responsible life, I am a pharmacist so I can recommend to you guys that are concerned about pouring oil all over your car, go to your pharmacy and see if you can get a 4 oz (120ml) prescription bottle to use as your pre-mix measuring device. The caps on them are pretty leak proof, they have markings on the side for ~accurate measurements and they can be tipped into the fuel filler neck without too much problem. They do come in 6oz and 8oz too so if you can get a 8oz bottle, it will leave room to get it into the neck then invert the whole bottle in.
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^^ many of the failed engines was due to not enough lubrication of the seals.. go ask the services guys and they will tell you that.. yes, carbon build up is a problem, but if you use good quality gas and dont drive like a grandma, it will cure itself.. also, if you use high quality synthetic premix, a small amount in the gas will burn cleanly...
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I've just recently started useing Lucas I'm happy I didn't do it for performance issues just long term health. I'll let you know if I see anything dumb, dangerous or different.
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Originally Posted by abbid
^ just go ahead and send me a full 4ounce of liquid morphine. If it arrives to me fully sealed without leaks, ill take your word for it and i wont have to bother hassling with the pharmacist to give me an empty bottle :P
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Ok just did a little look see- and yep it is not a full synthetic--it is a blend. I am by far not a super duper expert here but in my readings and in speaking with people about--other engines that use premix that have a catalytic converter such as performance boats and motorcycles,advise to only run a full synthetic because of the potential damage to the cat using a non synthetic premix. If you will notice on the Idemitsu-- is a RACING type of premix. Therefore I would have to question whether it is ok for an engine with a cat. Most racing type engines do not have cats. Good question as Idemitsu is a good product.
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I know race cars dont have a CAT.
It really depends on the formula of the premix, just like people who said Full Synthetic Engine oil would kill the engine because its not burning as *clean* as their Dino cousins. Is it true ? Well Im not sure but I know tons of people who use Full Synthetic Engine Oil has no engine problems, in fact people who had dead engine were mostly people who use nothing but Dino oil only. but lets not get into that for now. This is not a Synthetic vs Dino thread.
I've been using this premix for some time and of course I love it.
It really depends on the formula of the premix, just like people who said Full Synthetic Engine oil would kill the engine because its not burning as *clean* as their Dino cousins. Is it true ? Well Im not sure but I know tons of people who use Full Synthetic Engine Oil has no engine problems, in fact people who had dead engine were mostly people who use nothing but Dino oil only. but lets not get into that for now. This is not a Synthetic vs Dino thread.
I've been using this premix for some time and of course I love it.
#321
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Just wanted to add the Photo and that I have been using Idemitsu for 13,000 miles with no issues. But with 82,000 miles were something to happen to my CAT I can't really blame the Pre-Mix.
Originally Posted by olddragger
Idemitsu is not a full synthetic?
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#322
I think you have to be careful with pre-mixing. I used a fully synthetic oil for pre-mixing, Castrol, but noticed some odd results. If I mix 2 to 3 ounces everything seems fine. I do seem to do a little better with gas mileage. Anyway, a couple of times I screwed up and poured too much in my gas tank. About 6 ounces plus. I noticed that I got reduced gas mileage, which may be caused by the reduced octane rating as a result of too much pre-mix oil. The 2nd time around, it made me paranoid so I used a Gas treatment Fuel Line/Injector/carbon cleaner and everything seemed back to normal.
I notice that some people are pre-mixing at high amounts, 5oz plus. I wonder if its worth it if your MOP is on. Can too much pre-mixing or the wrong kind of oil cause carbon deposits or other deposits? Then there is the issue of reduced octane rating.
Also, if you are using a thinner oil like 5w20, how much of an advantage would pre-mixing be? I can see a little bit 2 to 3 ounces, but its hard for me to see going higher than that ( 5 and 6 oz).
I notice that some people are pre-mixing at high amounts, 5oz plus. I wonder if its worth it if your MOP is on. Can too much pre-mixing or the wrong kind of oil cause carbon deposits or other deposits? Then there is the issue of reduced octane rating.
Also, if you are using a thinner oil like 5w20, how much of an advantage would pre-mixing be? I can see a little bit 2 to 3 ounces, but its hard for me to see going higher than that ( 5 and 6 oz).
Last edited by sosonic; 12-23-2006 at 10:48 AM.