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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 06:48 PM
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Juan Bastage etc you guys need to dial back the rhetoric. both sides are just being ridiculous and its not doing anyone any good. you might think you're posting some "witty banter" but from here it looks a bit like instigating...
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Kane
Hey - I'll have you know I am hung like a VERY WELL ENDOWED....squirrel
I would not touch this one with a ten foot pole

Originally Posted by Kane
Yeah - anyone looked into a clutched pulley; like the HKS Blower? I foget the specs; but it really seemed to give it back on the lower RPM's. I think I first read about it in Modified.
I would be interested in a clutched pulley but wonder how I could keep an aggressive tune with one?
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 01:13 PM
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Reason I chose Pettit...

Its great to know Turbos are awesome and produce tons of torque while Superchargers are nothing but some parasitic air compressor which robs all the torque our renesis produce. fair enough, technically.

But lets see what are the options for a rx8 owner wanting to spend 6-8K on turbo.

01. Mazport - needs no introduction. Scammed over $80K from ppl wanting turbo & other parts.(I personally lost $8K after waiting 6 months).

02. Mazdamaniac - great kit. made up of mixed & matched parts from greddy. Also wait atleast a year for delivery. Not to mention Cobb AP supports only US vehicles to date.

03. Esmeril - lags till 5K rpm and nobody is sure about the authenticuty of the turbo. Uses Interceptor X warranted by Mazsport (which no longer exists).

04. Greddy - Lots of known issues with turbo and E-manage. Recently company declared US equivalent of Chapter 11 bankruptcy.

the only way you can get an immediate delivery for any of the above kits is when they are being taken off another rx-8 and re-sold.

So technically Turbo "might" be better then a supercharger and produce 30lb-ft more torque. But I'd rather have my supercharger now then wait till 2010.

just my 02 cents.
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 01:16 PM
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did you already take order of one or are you gonna buy one in the future
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Rotr8
did you already take order of one or are you gonna buy one in the future
I visited Pettit in December when I went to Florida to file report against Mazsport. I put down the deposit for the kit. Test drove Cam's 8 and also went with him to palm beach race way along with moon.
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 01:48 PM
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Yeah they're both good people,,, did Cam talk to you about the new pulley and injectors?
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Rotr8
Yeah they're both good people,,, did Cam talk to you about the new pulley and injectors?
Oh, yes he did. And I'm getting those. I'm very curious what quarter mile ET Juan posts when he takes his car to the dragstrip.
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 02:15 PM
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well congrats on the kit, maksure to give Phils8 your info and he'll add you to the list/map
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by a_ahlan
Oh, yes he did. And I'm getting those. I'm very curious what quarter mile ET Juan posts when he takes his car to the dragstrip.
Will see on that since I haven't drag race since my 11:92 quarter mile R100 run. That was back in 2001 Maryland International Speedway.
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by a_ahlan
01. Mazport (I personally lost $8K after waiting 6 months).

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How did that work
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by a_ahlan
Not to mention Cobb AP supports only US vehicles to date.
incorrect.


you forgot to mention SFR, PTP, and a couple other less known on this forum.

Congrats on your decision though. I'd bet a lot of the folks here would assume that i turn my nose at the SC, but even with some of the non ideal aspects of Pettit's FI system - i had my heart set on it for a few months.... the biggest reason i didnt end up staying the path was because i decided i wanted more area under the curve without having to rely on water/meth or anything else to do so.

FWIW i think that for a lot of people it is a good choice. Ease of install, equivalent to a top-mount in terms of bling factor, cost, decent bump in power. Basically i have nothing against it at all. It is what it is.
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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/\ well put - I concur
I actually came very close to getting the Pettit as well . My turbo choice was more to do with the fact that a good deal came up for a kit that I knew was upgradeable .
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Phil's 8
I would be interested in a clutched pulley but wonder how I could keep an aggressive tune with one?
I think the tune would stay the same; the difference being that you can spin more boost down low - and taper it off toward redline to protect the blower from over-spinning; if my understanding of the system is correct.
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
/\ well put - I concur
I actually came very close to getting the Pettit as well . My turbo choice was more to do with the fact that a good deal came up for a kit that I knew was upgradeable .
and now ours is upgradable too, not to the extents of a turbo, but small steps.
And Moon is working on a secondary rad thats built into the floor pan... And I believe Cam and Moon have plans on bringing it out as a Pettit product...
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 07:36 PM
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Man, I go away for a few days and all hell breaks loss.
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Moon Assad
Man, I go away for a few days and all hell breaks loss.
lol we need you around here to keep the peace...
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by paulmasoner
incorrect.


you forgot to mention SFR, PTP, and a couple other less known on this forum.

FWIW i think that for a lot of people it is a good choice. Ease of install, equivalent to a top-mount in terms of bling factor, cost, decent bump in power. Basically i have nothing against it at all. It is what it is.
paul, I waited for AP to start supporting my JDM 8, but it never happened. So I became one of the first beta testers for Hymee Scanalyzer Pro Tuner software and I'm quite happy with the results. It supports US,Euro,JDM everything. And 6 months before the AP tuner software came out, I was editing my maps in easy Graphical User Interface.

After getting burnt by Mazsport like that I wasn't in any mood to take chances with SFR or PTP even though I'm sure they are totally trust worthy. Also initially in July '08 when I went for Mazsport turbo - I wanted top mounted as I did not want rear rotor failure or my floor burning from the heat of the turbine.
But later I realized the turbo manifold for top mount would not clear the steering column (I am Right hand drive).

So considering everything - Ease of install, tech support by CAM, immediate delivery - Pettit wins hands down.
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by a_ahlan
paul, I waited for AP to start supporting my JDM 8, but it never happened. So I became one of the first beta testers for Hymee Scanalyzer Pro Tuner software and I'm quite happy with the results. It supports US,Euro,JDM everything. And 6 months before the AP tuner software came out, I was editing my maps in easy Graphical User Interface.

After getting burnt by Mazsport like that I wasn't in any mood to take chances with SFR or PTP even though I'm sure they are totally trust worthy. Also initially in July '08 when I went for Mazsport turbo - I wanted top mounted as I did not want rear rotor failure or my floor burning from the heat of the turbine.
But later I realized the turbo manifold for top mount would not clear the steering column (I am Right hand drive).

So considering everything - Ease of install, tech support by CAM, immediate delivery - Pettit wins hands down.
oh yeah, JDM i forgot.... sounds like you made a good choice then. I'm happy for ya, and im sure you will be its too bad there arent more options for RHD as far as the top mounts go... hell practically nothing that i'm aware of was designed with RHD in mind.
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dannobre
How did that work
oh, he's around somewhere in Pinnelas Park, opened up new business having great time with all the money he scammed from us.
It was a blessing in disguise for me- as otherwise I would have never gone to west palm beach,FL and met Cam and found out what Pettit was all about.
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by marsredr100
Will see on that since I haven't drag race since my 11:92 quarter mile R100 run. That was back in 2001 Maryland International Speedway.
I'm hoping 12.9 - 13.1 would be great.....
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 12:22 AM
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Anji,

I wish some (other) bastard here had scammed you and you came to my country to follow it up instead. You would have the perfect match for your Pro Tuner

BTW - Since the make/model of blower Cam is using has gone out of production, what is the replacement one he is using? Is it an Eaton or a Lyshom/Whipple?

Cheers,
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 01:03 AM
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Hymee,
You were on the top of my list before I ordered Mazsport. You were on the top of my list after I got scammed. But as I said, I was in no mood to wait around. And I figured your new intercooler setup will take some time to mature.
I'm not sure what Cam will be using for his future SC kits, but I'm pretty sure my one is the tried and tested OA 417. I believe moon is experimenting with the bigger 424.
My guess, Cam will stay with Twin screw (lysholm/whipple) instead of Eaton (roots). We are all aware of pros & cons of roots vs twin screw.
Yeah - right on about twin-screw. I'm still running air/air and not planning on changing that. Don't know what PWR would think about there intercoolers being thought of as immature.

I know you will love your new screw. I have a great time with mine. Go the Blower!

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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 01:15 AM
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Right now I have a brand new zero mile short block renny sitting in front of me.

Now the question is- is he old enough to get screwed and blown! or should I let him age for a 1000 kms NA as he learns the ways of life (breaks in).

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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by a_ahlan
hmm, you were the one who told me you were going back to the wet setup. good to know you got everything sorted.

Right now I have a brand new zero mile short block renny sitting in front of me.

Now the question is- is he old enough to get screwed and blown! or should I let him age for a 1000 kms NA as he learns the ways of life (breaks in).
Nice to know your getting all your bits together.

Yeah - things change. I guess I could not have mentioned it and just taken your money anyway! Hey - it's all cool. I'm not worried in the slightest.

And get some boost into it straight away to help bed all the seals in!!

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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by a_ahlan
hmm, you were the one who told me you were going back to the wet setup. good to know you got everything sorted.

Right now I have a brand new zero mile short block renny sitting in front of me.

Now the question is- is he old enough to get screwed and blown! or should I let him age for a 1000 kms NA as he learns the ways of life (breaks in).
Cam would probably recommend a break-in period before going FI. Hell, Mazda recommeds a break-in period before driving it hard!
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