I don't recall you being in a position to be criticized. What was funny to me about your post is that the whole reason that people like Jeff and his posse are unwelcome here is that they do not provide constructive criticism, they insult and instigate crapstorms. We're all pretty reasonable people on here, but when you have certain people that go out of there way to spread negative BS about a product that so far every single owner has been happy with, it gets annoying. Especially when it's done in a thread called "Pettit Super Charger Owners."

Regardless, the main intent of this thread was for owners to communictate with each other on improvements or modifications that they've done to their kits. Over the year or so this thread has been here, there has been far too much back and forth between us and a certain peddler of a competing product, and those who buy from/worship this peddler (who in at least one case, has a comical history of blind loyalty to another peddler that eventually screwed them over).

BTW, it was a our decision to put that Pettit white paper in our signature. As far as I know, the folks at Pettit are not even aware we're doing it. So it's a bit wrong to say that it's a "marketing strategy."

Here's my theory on Pettit's marketing strategy: Build and sell a good forced induction kit, and people will buy it.

 

points taken, alot of them are spot on and couldnt be said better. all of the stuff i'm reffering to has nothing to do with past crap on here, but simply about my questioning your guys assumptions and positions you've taken and run with about that paper. As far as Pettit not knowing whats going on... i'm sure its possible as i dont know anyone who's called them and spoke - but its been brought up on here a few times or more to see if they would come fill in the blanks.(admittedly never expecting it to happen because to do would mean either telling you guys that your far exagerrating things, or publicly tainting their rep for knowing what they are talkig about)

 

oooo touchy touchy I was just pointing out the loaded gun,
"Might want to segregate that list up a bit into actual builds/advances/interactive and some of the "wanna-bes".
It doesn't really make sense to have folks like Fluid Motorsports, Baysj, PaulMasoner, Shinka213 or tubingchamp Since in that list they haven't (or can't) actually provide any data (some for obvious reasons).
That is, if I understand the point of this list"
Tell me thats not a loaded statement, I wasn't attacking anyone just observing what was said, with the way that was stated.

 

Then change your original post to reflect that it is only your personal opinion.

I don't care what you want for your car.

Area under the curve is a bit vauge, don't you think? Are you talking about the whole curve(1-9k), midrange, top end???

You are touchy. Otherwise you wouldn't feel the need to constantly post in a thread about a product which you have never owned. Are you trying to convince Pettit owners that you know more about their setup than they do, or just trying to convince yourself that you made the right decision in going another direction?

BTW, it would have been easy for most Pettit/Greddy owners to wait indefinately for a "perfect" FI setup. I can't speak for others, but I am glad I made the purchase when I did. Otherwise I wouldn't have learned as much as I have over the past year, not to mention enjoyed a car with FI.

-Yambo

 

I don't think Jeff actually makes turbos lol. Also, the Garret turbo upgrade he has for the GReddy kit is generally considered one of the better possible setups available. There aren't a ton of people running the GT3071R but I haven't heard a single person that is running it complain about the Devil's Hairdryer. I was going to get it myself before I decided to go with the GT2871R instead. *shrug*

Anyway, whats going on in this thread? Is paul getting into fights with SC guys?

 

i dont get how its loaded?? maybe you and i percieve his words differently due to differing past experiences or something?

it does make sense to divide the list up into basic kit installs, kit advancements, parts wishlists/build coming etc... and frankly, those like me who arent there yet are "wanna-bes" for the momnet. and for the purpose of tht thread others like Fluid, Shinka etc are.. because although they are boosted, they have no thread and nothing to contribute to the purpose....

so how is that loaded... it seems to be to be a pretty direct dead on description of whats going on, with a suggestion thrown in to divide different types of threads... much like we did in the past with Greddy FAQS/Greddy FIXES/Gredyy install threads.....

 

Actually I agree that was a comment pretty much guaranteed to **** off someone, but uh... that shouldn't really surprise anybody. He isn't exactly known for his desire to avoid contention even if just for fun.

 

I often ask myself that same question, as I look at this thread day after day and find very little that interests me, and I own this kit!

I have considered deleting my subscription here several times over the past year because of all the nonsense.

Anyways, most people avoid real discussion here; for whatever reason I don't know, but I hope its not fear of being ridiculed by the supposed "experts" or yet another post where someone wants to show how cleverly they can "write".

 

um what part of this isnt an OBVIOUS personal opinion....?? this is why i get tired of talking to some of you.

all of it.

neither, i am confident that i made the right choice for my car, as i am that you made the right choice for yours. you dont seem to get it, me being here isnt a SC/TC thing. it never was. its me not buying into your exagerated assumptions from that 'paper' that Pettit so convieniently was very vague about and has yet to ever offer anymore explanation on....

well there is no perfect solution, far from it, i have my own gripes about my stuff, but i am comfortable with it still. Again, thats great that you jumped when you did, and your very happy with it.... i could care less about that, for me, the only reason i didnt was i knew it was going to be a long while before i was ready, and i knew that when my time came i could get results i would more prefer if i went turbo instead. thats all. hell if i could have jumped into the game a year ago, i'd have a Pettit too... hell, the only thing that ever kept me from it was the foreseeable power levels and how they'd be supported...

lol, duh, i have one..... the "turbos breaking" comment was directed at something that someone said to me previously

and no it shouldnt be a fight, and it shouldnt really have ANYTHING to do with supercharger guys in the sense that they are SC'd... i just want someone qualified to step up and fill in a butt load of vagueness in the little turbo renny failure theory...

maybe, it wouldnt surprise me a bit either..... especially when it comes to him i view the forum with a very apathetic attitude. it allows me to see through alot of the drama and BS that goes on sometimes and take away whats important.

regardless of how else its been viewed, or whether i wasnt presented in a way that might or was intended to annoy anyone, ITS STILL RIGHT. get over the emotional/personal stuff everyone...

 

so ignore him? people on here(not just you) say this kind of stuff all the time... why dont you just ignore and go on about your life and get over it?

 

Oh, I wasn't jabbing you with that, I was just tickled by your comment responding to the previous poster. As far as Jeff, he used to **** me off with his comments until I realized that he just likes to wind people up. I honestly don't know why there is such an issue between different forms of forced induction. There are so few FI RX-8s and it's already a rare car, so anybody boosting the car gets a thumbs up from me. I don't care how they are doing it.

Then again, I'm "someone wants to show how cleverly they can "write"." LOL. Alright, leaving the thread now... not picking a fight with anybody just thought the thread was funny.

 

intercoolers doesnt help charge temps? And dont get tech on me.
Why is this discussion?
OD

 

i knew you werent jabbing, thats why i included the "lol" similar thoughts about MM between us.

i dont think you were the intended subject of that phrase though.. there is another here who fits the bill much better


oh sure, thats their job. but they are only so good at it. not sure what you're going for?

the discussion for me is still waiting for someone to fill in all the vagueness of the assumptions and opinions about the failure theory paper. i get the feeling some think it still has something to do with a SC in some way. it doesnt. i have the turbo. even if jesus christ himself came down and told me that my turbo would "fry my ports at 9lbs and 310whp" and that they were right ... i still dont give a **** about any TC/SC debate as i wont be in a position to go and ghange my decision then since im not made out of money. For me its about confirming or denying my own opinions about some things.

 

And that first part of your statement completely negates your argument against why someone might take offense to the way Jeff employs his language
For someone with an apathetic view you certainly get wound up...

 

As the thread creator; IMO - yes it was loaded statement; and no - I don't care.

The point of this whole debacle is....

Raise your hand if you need info about MAF set-ups, fueling, cooling, build contsraints, component selection, water/meth or just water, compressor efficiency information, boost control (solenoid or pully), tuning observations, fabrication ideas, driveline issues.... la la la la? All of the things that happen when you double the power output.

Now that all our hands are up in the air - thus the thread was born.

The bonus is that we can keep a record of everyone's build thread for people who are shopping for FI.

The Bonus Bouns - we can go pick fights with the NA crowd.

 

I'm not wound up. Tired of answering your posts that insist on avoiding my reason for being here still, maybe.

I feel very foolish as i have yet again let my self be dragged into the "everything is Jeff's fault here" discussion.

i could care less what you or anyone else here thinks of jeff. if you dont like him, ignore him. even 12yo girls getting spammed by pedofiles in a chatroom have enough sense to do that.

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the only thing i'm interested in discussing is still theory paper and all its vagueness

 

IT didnt offend me but I saw where it could have gone thats all,, Im glad Im not the only one whom thought that when it was posted...
BTW Kane I have some really cool custom stuff coming to my kit in the near future, I havent done a thread yet but I have all the pics as well as the ones that will be taken for the future mods so at that time I will build a thread dedicated to the SC install and customization of it...

 

Sounds cool man - I still wanna see the first guy who gets a clutch pulley to work.... 16 PSI at 3500 - tappering off to 12 PSI at redline.... I would imagine that would be a wild ride.

 

Then call Cam up here's his number 561-844-2258

 

Im in Honduras. I dont have the luxury of a phone line as you know it. For me to call a non military number takes an act of congress.

 

here's thier email sooo I guess you can't say you didn't try info@pettitracing.com

 

wow,

the thread crapping is amazing right now.. and they took down hymees stuff. gentlemen pm is the answer..

beers :beers:

 

i agree swoope.......

someday....someday...

 

emailed.

 

good, I hope it was as indepth as your posts were here,,, please post you findings for all of us to share...