thats what keeps me coming on here,,,

 

What's more entertaining is that many of us in the middle of these arguments get together every year at SevenStock and share dinners and drinks, in a very cordial fashion. And we STILL argue!

The tension in real-life is nowhere near what is interpreted on the forum.

BTW, Greg.... you're welcome.

 

Um... Greg, not to call bullshit on this, but it actually was you. You included half a dozen people when you got pissed off at Ray because of Jeff yelling inanities at Moon. You sent a PM basically saying because of his association with Jeff you were going to be boycotting him and trying to get everyone you could to do the same. ....short term memory loss?

I don't really know whats going on in this thread, but there is a lot of misleading comments being made. If the Pettit guys want to "boycott" BHR, great... you are missing out on one of the best vendors out there. Its especially ironic because even when Ray has been fielding accusatory and insulting PMs from you in an adult and respectable fashion he has had nothing but positive things to say about the Pettit system. Take a long look in the mirror before you have a go at Ray imo.

 

Hey! I resemble that remark!

 

go back and read the series of post Aaron, call BS on me I dont want to ell you to F soemthing but,,, I in no way went to Ray to buy something, and I stand by that 100% I still refuse to support BHR, now can I have a normal conversation with him, yeah sure, but thanks for bring a private conversation into the public, I fully explained to Ray why I carried on PMs between he, yourself and I...
You can go F yourself for the moment(and a very temporary one at that, like Ray says we're all pretty cordial in person, but on here but you need to read up alittle more before coming in here and calling BS on me) nothing gets my blood boiling more than someone like you who is book smart and not too street savy with tools, and what not telling me how a particular conversation went when they were only there for maybe 20% of it...

Im pretty sure who sent PMs to Ray in such a manner then went to him to buy items,,,

I have only bought one thing from Ray a boost gauge, and I have to say with dissappointment that it was probably 4-5 yrs old it was all dusty and the light was well faded(orange)... I had asked for help sourcing some lug nuts, but that was well before the MM vs. Moon thread...

 

I'm well aware of these various conversations and it sounds to me like Aaron is right on the money. I agree the conversation wasn't about Greg wanting to buy anything but rather the threat to continue to never buy anything.

Why not just stand behind your comments Greg?

 

Well, Greg, I can respect you standing by your opinion regardless of whether or not I like it. That is what a "real man" does and you, Sir, are a real man for that. You have a right to be upset when someone on my team offends you and you certainly had a right to contact me regarding your frustrations.

As for that gauge, had you PM'd me or called me to let me know that the gauge came to you in that condition I would have accepted a return, no questions asked, and told AutoMeter (or whichever brand it was) to send you something more acceptable. I have no control over something I don't build but it is pretty well-established that I act as advocate for my customers when they are not made 100% satisfied by the companies whose products I sell. Again, you had every right to be upset but I don't recall any contact from you about your disappointment.

 

Wow for a bunch or retards and hacks that like to scrutinize peoples exact words you are really missing the point, I in no way was the person who went to Ray asking if he had something in his invetory go back and read Joffs link,, , there Flash I really havent found anything you have contributed to any thread yet but keep trying,,,

As for my stance and the dicotomy between the bussiness relationship I choose with BHR and communication on a personal level between the staff, yes they are at odds, I refuse to do bussiness with BHR, now if and when I meet any of you, you wannna throw back a couple beers and shoot the **** Im all for it... And btw I received many apllause for that PM that went out,,, and it just wasnt to the people I attatched to the PMs between Ray and I,,,
You guys need rope in all the sideshows you put on and concentrate on the center ring,,, Alas again many of us can hoot and holla all we want but Ray will run his bussiness in which ever manner he sees fit...

Gotta love it RXClubDrama.com..... cheers,,,

 

What IS your point?

You are aware that even the Flat Earth Society has it's supporters, yes? Consensus does not equal fact.

You are damned right about that one and I am one of the best vendors around here.

 

Thats funny Ray because I specifically remember you calling me an immature child who didnt know ****, but you and I both know we have smoothed over that speed bump...

 

Wow, I post great MAF readings and the threads goes to the toilet.

 

Man I too reall yhave some work to do but I find myself glued to my screen with anticipation glaring at the Refresh button, lol,,,
I think secretly we all revel in this stuff,,, as menial as it is,,,

 

I stand by THAT comment and I did what I could to "smooth over" things but apparently you haven't.

 

- my father used to say that a lot . Always got a chuckle

 

Thats quit a bold claim and contradiction there huh???
I think its pretty evident that the post here in the last hr between yourself and I reflect that I am more than willing to converse with you in a polite yet critical manner, I have indeed gotten over it, but again find myself having to defend my persona, for what reason Im still really not sure on, from the aggressive attitudes from the peanut gallery...
And I do know alot of **** just not the very selective niche you have dabbled and concentrated in.

 

My contributions to the rotary community don't always exist on this forum, although the ones which have I have since removed because I feel in the capitalistic viewpoint of being compensated for my efforts. Believe me, the advances and innovations which I have contributed to regarding the RX8 are not something I openly champion because I'm simply not that shallow.

 

ClubDrama-------- end Threadjack

Back to your regularly scheduled program...

 

The truth is overshadowed by your vanity. You, Like Bastage, have beaten me and I stand a humbled man.

 

ha... humbled,,, maybe up until a few months ago,,,

yeah am I confidnent in what I know and dont know yeah, do I love talking to people about what I know, hellz yeah, I think we all do, but vain, hardly...

I do believe we are both trying to take the high road here, but keep getting tangled in each others language..

 

Greg, you have to be out of your goddamn mind to talk to me that way. I absolutely dare you to say a single line of that to my face. Don't take my otherwise laid back nature to mean that I will let someone treat me with that disrespect.

I posted my comment because I don't feel it is especially truthful to say other than you had threatened to boycott Ray. I didn't say it in a hurtful or confrontational way however, because until about 20 seconds ago I thought we respected each other... you need to check yourself kid. Get your **** together and start acting like an adult or we are going to have more than words. Do I make myself clear?

 

Look Aaron, from your post I can see that you still havent gotten your facts straight here,,, Ray was being very specific and to say that Im the only one to 'boycott' his products is an understatement, it just seems you know myself to be the sole holder of that title,,, so as far as being the person who saught insight into Rays inventory , tis was not me. You assuming it was and then calling BS on me , Check yourself!!!your mistake,,,
Yes my wording, I admit was over confontational and aggressive, for that I apologize, but in no way change my stance...
It seems you and I have very simular personalities in certain circumstances,,, when pushed we push back and hard, but by no means was this a call to arms,,,
I do respect you thats why I found so completely offensive that you would jump into the fray without having all the facts, this is what spurred my reaction, No you and I will never get to that point, we know far to little about eachother for it to really come to fistacuffs,,,

 

Number one, I never -EVER- said that you were the only person to boycott Ray. I know for a fact that at least 3 people have done so. The only one that I have been personally included in the PM thread however was from you. I found it a little odd you made a comment about "knowing who it might have been" when you yourself just sent that PM a month ago. I also never said anything about Ray's inventory. You are reading a hell of a lot into my comments that I didn't say in the slightest.

That being said, I'm going to let you know flat out... if you ever say **** like that again, you can consider our friendship done. I do not tolerate that type of disrespect from anyone. I understand you have a temper and a tendancy to leap before you look sometimes.... but do not make the mistake that I will let that **** pass by. You may think we will never disolve into "fistacuffs" but if you had said that last post to me in person they would be peeling your *** off the sidewalk. Don't **** with me Greg.

I'm done with this thread.

 

Lets backtrack for a minute here,,,
Original statement,,,
1) Jeff's own less-than-ideal version of diplomacy with the Pettit S/C crowd was what brought about that rule, but you probably already knew that. It might be interesting to note, J, that every April/May I receive at least one PM from a Pettit S/C owner pledging to boycott BHR, simply because MM is part of the BHR team, and they claim to represent ALL Pettit owners. What is MOST interesting is that the one person who led two of the three "boycotts" recently PM'd me wanting/needing stuff I have in my inventory.

^^^^ Not me,,, I have my assumptions but I assure you I have not inquired anything from Ray since that exchange of PMs,,,

Bold, guy #1.) me!!! although I never used the 'word' spcifically the messege was there.
guy #2) not me,,,, this is the person that I feel the majority of the discussion revolved around until it go toutta hand,,,
EDIT- #2 is me but somewhow the part about the 'invetory was chopped,,,, It seems among the confusion Ray beleived that I inquired about a product of his,,,
You calling my BS then goin on to say already know and clearly understood statements about Ray position about the SC, not sure what that has to do with anything,,,

My reply yada yada yada...

Ray and I aggree to disaggree but as of yet no threats,,,

You threatening me ,,,, which has not fallen upon deaf ears,,,

Me trying to explain to you again the inititial coversation IMO did not center around me,,,

And you threatening me again,,,
Which again not taken lightly but we all alittle hyped up right now,,, soo whatever,,,

 

I was not saying at any point that the person who was calling up and asking about Ray's inventory was you. If that is the miscommunication here then I'll clarify. My comment was specifically saying that the person that said they would boycott (ie person number 1!!) was you. I know who the other person is for what its worth.

You telling me to **** myself and then saying I'm not savy with tools? I mean, wtf does that have to do with anything besides provoking a fight? For starters, unlike a lot of people on this forum I make no illusions about the depth of my rotary knowledge or tool skills making that a rather pointless attack. Beyond that, I know its easy to feel internet tough guy on here, but I can't believe you would ever tell me to **** myself in person. My threats were not intended to fall on deaf ears. I don't ever want to be treated that way again. If I didn't make myself clear on my original point I apologize, but if you think that gives you ANY right to act that way you are sadly mistaken.

 

I think we have awkwardly arrived at the same conclusion here,,, I think this has exhasusted itself, I previously apologized, for my aggression, if you would like to take this further lets do so offline, you have my number, I am more than willing to talk to you about anything you want,,,