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Old 04-08-2014, 06:32 PM
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Go to advance auto parts if you dont have your own reader. Get said codes, Return home and post said codes.
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Thumbs up Reading Codes

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Go to advance auto parts if you dont have your own reader. Get said codes, Return home and post said codes.
Right again, Kemosahbee. You do not speak with forked tongue.
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My dumb question if the day:

My trunk lid seems to shut and slam very hard. I just got the car. It looks like some sort of sound deadener in there maybe making the lid a bit heavier. It feels like the struts aren't really doing anything. Might I need to replace the struts? And if so where will I find them?
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04 2004 Mazda RX8 Trunk Strut - Body Mechanical & Trim - Rhino Pac - PartsGeek
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Thumbs up He's not heavy, he's my brother (the trunk lid)

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My dumb question if the day:

My trunk lid seems to shut and slam very hard. I just got the car. It looks like some sort of sound deadener in there maybe making the lid a bit heavier. It feels like the struts aren't really doing anything. Might I need to replace the struts? And if so where will I find them?
If it stays up when you open it, there's no problem. Just lower it near closing and let it drop down to close and latch. If the trunk won't stay up, or the way it closes bothers you, you can get an extension arm strut suggested by Willard if you want, but the trunk is probably operating the way it was designed. It's not the sound deadening, its the weight of the steel trunk lid. The trunk lid is heavier than most lids because Mazda made it so to balance the weight over the wheels for good tracking. The reason the Rx8 takes curves so well (and was a top handling car under $100,000) was because Mazda purposely balanced the weight of the car 50/50 over the wheels by moving the engine back, the gas tank forward, and using different body materials (aluminum, steel, etc.) for different parts. The steel trunk lid helps add weight to the back of the car to balance the weight.
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can any owner get a tsb item fixed for free or does that only pertain to the Original owner?

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TSB is a Technical bulletin to dealer/ mechanics for often found faults

They are usually covered under warranty...but sometimes they will be covered as goodwill gestures

If the vehicle is under warranty they will cover it...if it isn't ...most likely not

Doesn't matter if the owner is original or not...as the Mazda warranty is transferable and depends on other parameters
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Ok i've had this issue and i can't figure out what is it now. When i purchase things off 8 members and i need the URL to update the Trader score. WHAT url are they talking about?
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thanks riwwp. i did that last time with carbon8 and he said he can't get the trader score to post. well i just purchased more parts from another 8 member so hopefully he will get it lol my trader score should not be zero lol
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The system can be a bit buggy i've noticed.
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Question Help Please: E-SHAFT SENSOR vs CIRCUIT & EGI fuse

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Instead of trying to get hold of and disconnecting the E-SHAFT SENSOR (Eccentric Shaft Position Sensor) to introduce Sea Foam into the engine, or to do other work where you don't want the gas injecting and the plugs & coils firing, wouldn't it be just as well (easier) to pull the CIRCUIT relay and EGI fuse in the main relay/fuse box? How 'bout it guys and girls????



Any comments / ideas re: the above? Puullleezzz, Anyone?


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Not sure, ESS sensor takes 2 minutes if that so why bother messing with what you don't know.
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Another dumb question. I just bought my new 8. My last one had its clutch pedal snap in the middle of DC rush hour traffic. I noticed it doesn't look like this one is reinforced. It had 114k. Should I reinforce it? Replace the assembly? Just let it go?
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Either order the reinforcement kit or purchase the BHR clutch pedal with the kit installed.
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Thank you. I don't want to buy the whole pedal.

Which kit?
Amazon.com: Clutch Pedal Reinforcement Repair Bracket Kit fits Mazda RX-8: Automotive Amazon.com: Clutch Pedal Reinforcement Repair Bracket Kit fits Mazda RX-8: Automotive
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Originally Posted by Bugler
Another dumb question. I just bought my new 8. My last one had its clutch pedal snap in the middle of DC rush hour traffic. I noticed it doesn't look like this one is reinforced. It had 114k. Should I reinforce it? Replace the assembly? Just let it go?
After 3 pedals in 80k miles i had a welder tack it and mine has been good for 60k miles.
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I will say this bugler, read this...https://www.rx8club.com/good-guy-bad...-douai-251637/

Then, make your choice.
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Originally Posted by williard1
I will say this bugler, read this...https://www.rx8club.com/good-guy-bad...-douai-251637/

Then, make your choice.
Wow, choice made! Thanks a lot for that! When my pedal went on my last one I didn't know better and just spent the money to buy a new one the dealer. This is before the extended warranty came out for it. It lasted another 45k until the car was totaled. I'd rather reinforce this one instead of waiting till it breaks.
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Ok one more. Those B pillar things are just vinyl decals right? Where's the best place to get them to match my BB 8?
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Question

I have a 2004 RX8 with 168K miles on original engine. It went dead and won't start after passing a CA smog test 3 weeks before. I took it to dealership for repair. They want to replace starter, coil and plugs that will cost me $1600 before they do further test on the engine. Is it worth it risking that further test may result in dead engine? How much a new engine will cost me? I am afraid to ask the dealership.

Any idea?
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Get it back from the dealership. Please. Unless you have $1,600 that you have no other use for. They are charging you $1,150 in labor for under an hour of work with basic tools.

You can get the coils, plugs, and wires for under $200, and a new starter for $350. Replacing them both is REALLY easy.

Where can I buy new ignition coils?
You have a number of options for coils:
- The Cheapest option: BWD/Intermotor coils from auto parts stores like Advance Auto. 4 coils, 4 plugs, and 4 wires can be had for around $190-220 total based on whatever promotion is running at the time, shipped to your door for free. They are considered to be the first coil revision and you should expect to need to replace them around 20,000 miles, 30,000 miles max. They often come with a "lifetime warranty" by the auto parts store, which could potentially be leveraged for perpetually new coils.

- The Best Upgrade: The BHR ignition coil upgrade can be had for around $500, which eliminates the need to continue replacing coils periodically, as well as deliverying a significantly stronger spark for minor mileage and power gains. It is a proven kit with top notch customer service supporting it. It includes the wires, you still need to add plugs ($80)

- The For-Sure OEM: Mazmart sells all 4 coils of the latest OEM coil revision (C) for around $250, (just the coils, you still need to add plugs and wires) Supported by top notch customer service. They will likely last longer than 30,000 miles, but we don't have much solid data on how long the latest coil revision will last.

- The Most Expensive option: Buying from a dealer will run you around $300+ for the coils, $500+ for coils, wires and plugs, and if you have them do the install, expect to get a bill for anywhere from $700 to $1,800. You may not get the latest coil revision. Yes, you are getting shafted if you take this option, so bring lube.

- The Highest Risk option: Ebay coils continue to pop up as counterfeit, mislabeled, dead on arrival, and have zero post-purchase support largely. They are the "cheapest" listed price, but when you add that $92 or whatever to the price of anything in the list above from having to do it over again, you can see that they are no longer the cheapest option. Do it right the first time. "Motor King" coils are popping up at an attractive price on Ebay, but are being proven as ineffective, to the point of being unable to get the engine fired. "Mazda" branded coils on ebay are almost always counterfeit. Check the seller's name though, since some of our vendors sell legitimate coils there. The price will be $200+ though. Anything sold as "Mazda OEM" under ~$26 per coil should really be considered as suspect and probably counterfeit.

Be wary of "LSx D585 coil upgrades", as not all D585 coils are created the same, and the standard generic D585 coil is not properly designed internally for the RX-8's ignition needs. They generally "work", but there are anomalies and performance issues that have to be solved, if they can be solved. Definitely NOT a plug and play option, even if it is advertised as "plug and play"
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Originally Posted by Bugler
Another dumb question. I just bought my new 8. My last one had its clutch pedal snap in the middle of DC rush hour traffic. I noticed it doesn't look like this one is reinforced. It had 114k. Should I reinforce it? Replace the assembly? Just let it go?
If you replace the assembly (or remove, reinforce it and put it back), get the TSB and follow the bolt tightening sequence. Mazda claims the problem was incorrect tightening by the assembly line workers. I think I'm the only one here who puts some credibility to that, but I've seen more than enough stuff damaged by incorrect torquing. It wouldn't hurt to follow their instructions.

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Smile What's next?

What if I after have replaced the coil,starter and plugs and the engine turns out to be still no good, no compression.

What are my options? Are there any remanufactured engine for RX8? How much do they cost? What abut the new engine, how much do they cost?

Thanks, for any suggestions. I really don't want to throw any money even if I have some but I haven't done any car repair.
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If the engine is actually dead, getting a replacement will cost you at least $2,000 for a good used engine, $2,500+ to get it rebuilt by Rotary Resurrection, $3,500 for a new reman from Mazmart, $4,000+ for a new reman from the dealer, or $5,000+ for a hand built new engine from Pettit, BHR< or Pineapple Racing.

Add to that the cost of shipping the engine and labor time to remove and re-install. A dealer's quote starts at $6,000, and I've seen as high as $16,000 (which is retarded).

Your only way to know for sure is to get a compression test. A proper compression test will also give you your starter's cranking speed, though the dealer should have that cranking number if they insist that the starter needs to be replaced.

Keep in mind that if the engine is still dead and you choose to keep the car and replace the engine, you will still need that new ignition and new starter (assuming the starter is actually dead) for the new engine.


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