New MazdaManiac BASE Calibrations
Uh, 11.2 isn't rich. That is where I tune for on the first few iterations.
In some ranges, I'll work the AFR out to 12.3:1 or so, but only if you live in a place where the gas isn't crap.
If it is sputtering at 11:1, you have some other mechanical issue. It will still fire all the way down to 9:1 or so.
In some ranges, I'll work the AFR out to 12.3:1 or so, but only if you live in a place where the gas isn't crap.
If it is sputtering at 11:1, you have some other mechanical issue. It will still fire all the way down to 9:1 or so.
That's why my ap is saying when I use the live data > equivenent ratio 11.2
mabey my o2 sensor is shot...
Last edited by marcux; May 11, 2009 at 03:12 PM.
this is my data log in second gear
Seconds (sec),Equiv. Ratio (AFR),RPM (RPM),Engine Load (%),Long Term FT1 (%),Mass Airflow (g/s),Short Term FT1 (%),Vehicle Speed (mph)
0.75,14.55,2863,22.74,0.62,17.02,-0.16,18.64
0.90,14.55,2861,22.34,0.62,16.36,-0.16,18.64
1.02,14.55,2864,21.56,0.62,15.74,-1.72,18.64
1.15,14.55,2871,21.56,0.62,16.15,-2.50,18.64
1.28,14.70,2862,21.56,0.62,16.22,-2.50,18.64
1.39,14.85,2861,23.91,0.62,19.35,-0.94,18.64
1.54,14.99,2934,45.08,0.62,43.32,0.62,19.26
1.66,15.73,3014,63.90,0.62,55.02,6.08,19.88
1.80,15.14,3088,74.87,0.62,63.12,6.86,20.51
1.93,14.55,3217,77.62,0.62,66.10,-0.16,21.75
2.05,14.41,3325,77.62,0.62,67.11,-0.16,22.37
2.19,14.55,3474,77.22,0.62,70.35,-0.16,22.99
2.28,14.55,3571,76.44,0.62,71.56,-0.16,23.61
2.38,14.41,3685,76.44,0.62,73.41,-0.16,24.23
2.53,14.41,3774,74.87,0.62,74.48,-0.16,25.48
2.61,14.41,3902,74.48,0.62,76.66,-0.16,26.10
2.74,14.26,4004,73.30,0.62,76.87,-0.16,26.72
2.87,14.26,4098,72.91,0.62,78.83,-0.16,27.34
2.98,14.26,4225,72.91,0.62,80.79,-0.16,27.96
3.12,14.26,4332,74.87,0.62,88.80,-0.16,29.20
3.25,14.26,4485,84.67,0.62,101.48,-0.16,29.83
3.36,15.29,4600,86.63,0.62,105.51,-0.16,30.45
3.48,14.99,4755,88.20,0.62,111.07,-0.16,31.69
3.61,14.85,4856,89.77,0.62,114.58,-0.16,32.31
3.75,14.41,5027,90.94,0.62,121.19,-0.16,33.55
3.90,13.96,5176,91.73,0.62,124.32,-0.16,34.80
4.03,13.38,5363,92.90,0.62,132.12,-0.16,35.42
4.15,13.38,5522,94.47,0.62,135.75,-0.16,36.66
4.28,13.08,5662,97.22,0.62,145.26,-0.16,37.90
4.39,12.64,5846,98.00,0.62,150.44,-0.16,39.15
4.53,12.64,6004,99.96,0.62,159.26,-0.16,39.77
4.67,12.35,6158,101.14,0.62,165.13,-0.16,41.01
4.78,12.05,6316,100.35,0.62,168.18,-0.16,41.63
4.92,11.76,6433,99.18,0.62,171.95,-0.16,42.87
5.05,11.76,6629,98.78,0.62,172.66,-0.16,44.12
5.14,12.64,6748,98.78,0.62,176.33,-0.16,44.74
5.29,12.64,6899,99.96,0.62,180.28,-0.16,45.98
5.41,12.35,7081,99.57,0.62,189.17,-0.16,47.22
5.53,12.05,7203,99.57,0.62,192.56,-0.16,47.85
5.66,12.20,7356,98.78,0.62,192.91,-0.16,49.09
5.79,11.32,7518,96.82,0.62,192.15,-0.16,49.71
5.92,12.05,7683,96.43,0.62,194.84,-0.16,50.95
6.04,12.35,7836,96.04,0.62,195.66,-0.16,52.20
6.15,12.35,7981,94.86,0.62,200.00,-0.16,52.82
6.28,12.35,8117,94.08,0.62,199.54,-0.16,54.06
6.42,12.49,8243,94.08,0.62,201.44,-0.16,54.68
6.54,12.35,8378,93.30,0.62,205.87,-0.16,55.30
6.67,12.05,8545,93.69,0.62,208.32,-0.16,56.54
6.80,11.61,8663,92.51,0.62,211.58,-0.16,57.17
6.92,11.61,8802,91.73,0.62,210.76,-0.16,58.41
7.03,11.47,8930,90.55,0.62,211.58,-0.16,59.03
7.16,11.17,9024,88.98,0.62,214.03,-0.16,59.65
7.29,11.47,9120,88.20,0.62,207.50,-0.16,60.27
Seconds (sec),Equiv. Ratio (AFR),RPM (RPM),Engine Load (%),Long Term FT1 (%),Mass Airflow (g/s),Short Term FT1 (%),Vehicle Speed (mph)
0.75,14.55,2863,22.74,0.62,17.02,-0.16,18.64
0.90,14.55,2861,22.34,0.62,16.36,-0.16,18.64
1.02,14.55,2864,21.56,0.62,15.74,-1.72,18.64
1.15,14.55,2871,21.56,0.62,16.15,-2.50,18.64
1.28,14.70,2862,21.56,0.62,16.22,-2.50,18.64
1.39,14.85,2861,23.91,0.62,19.35,-0.94,18.64
1.54,14.99,2934,45.08,0.62,43.32,0.62,19.26
1.66,15.73,3014,63.90,0.62,55.02,6.08,19.88
1.80,15.14,3088,74.87,0.62,63.12,6.86,20.51
1.93,14.55,3217,77.62,0.62,66.10,-0.16,21.75
2.05,14.41,3325,77.62,0.62,67.11,-0.16,22.37
2.19,14.55,3474,77.22,0.62,70.35,-0.16,22.99
2.28,14.55,3571,76.44,0.62,71.56,-0.16,23.61
2.38,14.41,3685,76.44,0.62,73.41,-0.16,24.23
2.53,14.41,3774,74.87,0.62,74.48,-0.16,25.48
2.61,14.41,3902,74.48,0.62,76.66,-0.16,26.10
2.74,14.26,4004,73.30,0.62,76.87,-0.16,26.72
2.87,14.26,4098,72.91,0.62,78.83,-0.16,27.34
2.98,14.26,4225,72.91,0.62,80.79,-0.16,27.96
3.12,14.26,4332,74.87,0.62,88.80,-0.16,29.20
3.25,14.26,4485,84.67,0.62,101.48,-0.16,29.83
3.36,15.29,4600,86.63,0.62,105.51,-0.16,30.45
3.48,14.99,4755,88.20,0.62,111.07,-0.16,31.69
3.61,14.85,4856,89.77,0.62,114.58,-0.16,32.31
3.75,14.41,5027,90.94,0.62,121.19,-0.16,33.55
3.90,13.96,5176,91.73,0.62,124.32,-0.16,34.80
4.03,13.38,5363,92.90,0.62,132.12,-0.16,35.42
4.15,13.38,5522,94.47,0.62,135.75,-0.16,36.66
4.28,13.08,5662,97.22,0.62,145.26,-0.16,37.90
4.39,12.64,5846,98.00,0.62,150.44,-0.16,39.15
4.53,12.64,6004,99.96,0.62,159.26,-0.16,39.77
4.67,12.35,6158,101.14,0.62,165.13,-0.16,41.01
4.78,12.05,6316,100.35,0.62,168.18,-0.16,41.63
4.92,11.76,6433,99.18,0.62,171.95,-0.16,42.87
5.05,11.76,6629,98.78,0.62,172.66,-0.16,44.12
5.14,12.64,6748,98.78,0.62,176.33,-0.16,44.74
5.29,12.64,6899,99.96,0.62,180.28,-0.16,45.98
5.41,12.35,7081,99.57,0.62,189.17,-0.16,47.22
5.53,12.05,7203,99.57,0.62,192.56,-0.16,47.85
5.66,12.20,7356,98.78,0.62,192.91,-0.16,49.09
5.79,11.32,7518,96.82,0.62,192.15,-0.16,49.71
5.92,12.05,7683,96.43,0.62,194.84,-0.16,50.95
6.04,12.35,7836,96.04,0.62,195.66,-0.16,52.20
6.15,12.35,7981,94.86,0.62,200.00,-0.16,52.82
6.28,12.35,8117,94.08,0.62,199.54,-0.16,54.06
6.42,12.49,8243,94.08,0.62,201.44,-0.16,54.68
6.54,12.35,8378,93.30,0.62,205.87,-0.16,55.30
6.67,12.05,8545,93.69,0.62,208.32,-0.16,56.54
6.80,11.61,8663,92.51,0.62,211.58,-0.16,57.17
6.92,11.61,8802,91.73,0.62,210.76,-0.16,58.41
7.03,11.47,8930,90.55,0.62,211.58,-0.16,59.03
7.16,11.17,9024,88.98,0.62,214.03,-0.16,59.65
7.29,11.47,9120,88.20,0.62,207.50,-0.16,60.27
this is my data log in second gear
Seconds (sec),Equiv. Ratio (AFR),RPM (RPM),Engine Load (%),Long Term FT1 (%),Mass Airflow (g/s),Short Term FT1 (%),Vehicle Speed (mph)
0.75,14.55,2863,22.74,0.62,17.02,-0.16,18.64
0.90,14.55,2861,22.34,0.62,16.36,-0.16,18.64
1.02,14.55,2864,21.56,0.62,15.74,-1.72,18.64
1.15,14.55,2871,21.56,0.62,16.15,-2.50,18.64
1.28,14.70,2862,21.56,0.62,16.22,-2.50,18.64
1.39,14.85,2861,23.91,0.62,19.35,-0.94,18.64
1.54,14.99,2934,45.08,0.62,43.32,0.62,19.26
1.66,15.73,3014,63.90,0.62,55.02,6.08,19.88
1.80,15.14,3088,74.87,0.62,63.12,6.86,20.51
1.93,14.55,3217,77.62,0.62,66.10,-0.16,21.75
2.05,14.41,3325,77.62,0.62,67.11,-0.16,22.37
2.19,14.55,3474,77.22,0.62,70.35,-0.16,22.99
2.28,14.55,3571,76.44,0.62,71.56,-0.16,23.61
2.38,14.41,3685,76.44,0.62,73.41,-0.16,24.23
2.53,14.41,3774,74.87,0.62,74.48,-0.16,25.48
2.61,14.41,3902,74.48,0.62,76.66,-0.16,26.10
2.74,14.26,4004,73.30,0.62,76.87,-0.16,26.72
2.87,14.26,4098,72.91,0.62,78.83,-0.16,27.34
2.98,14.26,4225,72.91,0.62,80.79,-0.16,27.96
3.12,14.26,4332,74.87,0.62,88.80,-0.16,29.20
3.25,14.26,4485,84.67,0.62,101.48,-0.16,29.83
3.36,15.29,4600,86.63,0.62,105.51,-0.16,30.45
3.48,14.99,4755,88.20,0.62,111.07,-0.16,31.69
3.61,14.85,4856,89.77,0.62,114.58,-0.16,32.31
3.75,14.41,5027,90.94,0.62,121.19,-0.16,33.55
3.90,13.96,5176,91.73,0.62,124.32,-0.16,34.80
4.03,13.38,5363,92.90,0.62,132.12,-0.16,35.42
4.15,13.38,5522,94.47,0.62,135.75,-0.16,36.66
4.28,13.08,5662,97.22,0.62,145.26,-0.16,37.90
4.39,12.64,5846,98.00,0.62,150.44,-0.16,39.15
4.53,12.64,6004,99.96,0.62,159.26,-0.16,39.77
4.67,12.35,6158,101.14,0.62,165.13,-0.16,41.01
4.78,12.05,6316,100.35,0.62,168.18,-0.16,41.63
4.92,11.76,6433,99.18,0.62,171.95,-0.16,42.87
5.05,11.76,6629,98.78,0.62,172.66,-0.16,44.12
5.14,12.64,6748,98.78,0.62,176.33,-0.16,44.74
5.29,12.64,6899,99.96,0.62,180.28,-0.16,45.98
5.41,12.35,7081,99.57,0.62,189.17,-0.16,47.22
5.53,12.05,7203,99.57,0.62,192.56,-0.16,47.85
5.66,12.20,7356,98.78,0.62,192.91,-0.16,49.09
5.79,11.32,7518,96.82,0.62,192.15,-0.16,49.71
5.92,12.05,7683,96.43,0.62,194.84,-0.16,50.95
6.04,12.35,7836,96.04,0.62,195.66,-0.16,52.20
6.15,12.35,7981,94.86,0.62,200.00,-0.16,52.82
6.28,12.35,8117,94.08,0.62,199.54,-0.16,54.06
6.42,12.49,8243,94.08,0.62,201.44,-0.16,54.68
6.54,12.35,8378,93.30,0.62,205.87,-0.16,55.30
6.67,12.05,8545,93.69,0.62,208.32,-0.16,56.54
6.80,11.61,8663,92.51,0.62,211.58,-0.16,57.17
6.92,11.61,8802,91.73,0.62,210.76,-0.16,58.41
7.03,11.47,8930,90.55,0.62,211.58,-0.16,59.03
7.16,11.17,9024,88.98,0.62,214.03,-0.16,59.65
7.29,11.47,9120,88.20,0.62,207.50,-0.16,60.27
Seconds (sec),Equiv. Ratio (AFR),RPM (RPM),Engine Load (%),Long Term FT1 (%),Mass Airflow (g/s),Short Term FT1 (%),Vehicle Speed (mph)
0.75,14.55,2863,22.74,0.62,17.02,-0.16,18.64
0.90,14.55,2861,22.34,0.62,16.36,-0.16,18.64
1.02,14.55,2864,21.56,0.62,15.74,-1.72,18.64
1.15,14.55,2871,21.56,0.62,16.15,-2.50,18.64
1.28,14.70,2862,21.56,0.62,16.22,-2.50,18.64
1.39,14.85,2861,23.91,0.62,19.35,-0.94,18.64
1.54,14.99,2934,45.08,0.62,43.32,0.62,19.26
1.66,15.73,3014,63.90,0.62,55.02,6.08,19.88
1.80,15.14,3088,74.87,0.62,63.12,6.86,20.51
1.93,14.55,3217,77.62,0.62,66.10,-0.16,21.75
2.05,14.41,3325,77.62,0.62,67.11,-0.16,22.37
2.19,14.55,3474,77.22,0.62,70.35,-0.16,22.99
2.28,14.55,3571,76.44,0.62,71.56,-0.16,23.61
2.38,14.41,3685,76.44,0.62,73.41,-0.16,24.23
2.53,14.41,3774,74.87,0.62,74.48,-0.16,25.48
2.61,14.41,3902,74.48,0.62,76.66,-0.16,26.10
2.74,14.26,4004,73.30,0.62,76.87,-0.16,26.72
2.87,14.26,4098,72.91,0.62,78.83,-0.16,27.34
2.98,14.26,4225,72.91,0.62,80.79,-0.16,27.96
3.12,14.26,4332,74.87,0.62,88.80,-0.16,29.20
3.25,14.26,4485,84.67,0.62,101.48,-0.16,29.83
3.36,15.29,4600,86.63,0.62,105.51,-0.16,30.45
3.48,14.99,4755,88.20,0.62,111.07,-0.16,31.69
3.61,14.85,4856,89.77,0.62,114.58,-0.16,32.31
3.75,14.41,5027,90.94,0.62,121.19,-0.16,33.55
3.90,13.96,5176,91.73,0.62,124.32,-0.16,34.80
4.03,13.38,5363,92.90,0.62,132.12,-0.16,35.42
4.15,13.38,5522,94.47,0.62,135.75,-0.16,36.66
4.28,13.08,5662,97.22,0.62,145.26,-0.16,37.90
4.39,12.64,5846,98.00,0.62,150.44,-0.16,39.15
4.53,12.64,6004,99.96,0.62,159.26,-0.16,39.77
4.67,12.35,6158,101.14,0.62,165.13,-0.16,41.01
4.78,12.05,6316,100.35,0.62,168.18,-0.16,41.63
4.92,11.76,6433,99.18,0.62,171.95,-0.16,42.87
5.05,11.76,6629,98.78,0.62,172.66,-0.16,44.12
5.14,12.64,6748,98.78,0.62,176.33,-0.16,44.74
5.29,12.64,6899,99.96,0.62,180.28,-0.16,45.98
5.41,12.35,7081,99.57,0.62,189.17,-0.16,47.22
5.53,12.05,7203,99.57,0.62,192.56,-0.16,47.85
5.66,12.20,7356,98.78,0.62,192.91,-0.16,49.09
5.79,11.32,7518,96.82,0.62,192.15,-0.16,49.71
5.92,12.05,7683,96.43,0.62,194.84,-0.16,50.95
6.04,12.35,7836,96.04,0.62,195.66,-0.16,52.20
6.15,12.35,7981,94.86,0.62,200.00,-0.16,52.82
6.28,12.35,8117,94.08,0.62,199.54,-0.16,54.06
6.42,12.49,8243,94.08,0.62,201.44,-0.16,54.68
6.54,12.35,8378,93.30,0.62,205.87,-0.16,55.30
6.67,12.05,8545,93.69,0.62,208.32,-0.16,56.54
6.80,11.61,8663,92.51,0.62,211.58,-0.16,57.17
6.92,11.61,8802,91.73,0.62,210.76,-0.16,58.41
7.03,11.47,8930,90.55,0.62,211.58,-0.16,59.03
7.16,11.17,9024,88.98,0.62,214.03,-0.16,59.65
7.29,11.47,9120,88.20,0.62,207.50,-0.16,60.27
Or not....
Ok, well, I went over everything today, and could not find any problems. I have stock coils and ngk plugs, I don't think anything is wrong with the car. I think mabey I need to upgrade my coils and plugs to run richer.
Last edited by marcux; May 11, 2009 at 08:18 PM.
4.0.1 the first map I recived, mabey i'm just being a little paranoid there is sputter and is real jerky, it only happens when I reach boost, It runs absolution fine out of boost. I have a 2.5 inch intake going into a foot long 3.5 inch pipe where the maf sensor is. mabey a bit too small? I did a datalog and my afr's when in boost were 11.16.. That should be enough for stock coils/plugs to handle in boost right?

would this have anything to do about it?

would this have anything to do about it?
Last edited by marcux; May 11, 2009 at 09:02 PM.
Really.
PLEASE READ THE INSTRUCTIONS.
Do NOT attempt to paraphrase them.
The "base" calibration is only the v4.0.0
Looks awfully short right after the change in diameter and direction.
Marcux: Do you have any screens in the intake? Try extending your tube after you MAF. Mine oes right behind my intercooler. You only have the one map? Is the sputter you hear outside the car or with the rpms? Your stock plugs/coils will be fine until about 300hp. How many miles are on you coils/plugs? I dont know what MM knows about tune and issues but I trying to diagnose issues openly in case I know what is wrong or MM knows without him having to ask questions.
Last edited by Cattywampus; May 12, 2009 at 08:08 AM.
Update: In comparing my datalogs, it seems like my airflow is up an average of ~ 10% since my first tune. Just for curiosity's sake, I'm going to do a datalog of stock to see how much it's up overall. I wouldn't be surprised if my car is making 10% more hp since my first tune. It feels PHENOMINAL. Thank you MM!!
) There is not much difference. Not sure when Jeff updated mine.
We have had people report that dwell changes with N/A platforms have yielded some nice changes. It's not required but you may notice some nice improvements if you change your dwell.
Marcux: Do you have any screens in the intake? Try extending your tube after you MAF. Mine oes right behind my intercooler. You only have the one map? Is the sputter you hear outside the car or with the rpms? Your stock plugs/coils will be fine until about 300hp. How many miles are on you coils/plugs? I dont know what MM knows about tune and issues but I trying to diagnose issues openly in case I know what is wrong or MM knows without him having to ask questions.
Well, the 3.5 tube is about a foot long 6" in each direction from the maf, no screens, but I can try some in there. soon as I hit boost or neutral pressure, I feel sputter and power loss/choking. and the occational backfire when I let off the gas and back on it. I have the ability to order some ls2 Blaster coils, should I give it a shot. mabey my coils are shot? because, like i said.. it runs really well out of boost..
Well, the 3.5 tube is about a foot long 6" in each direction from the maf, no screens, but I can try some in there. soon as I hit boost or neutral pressure, I feel sputter and power loss/choking. and the occational backfire when I let off the gas and back on it. I have the ability to order some ls2 Blaster coils, should I give it a shot. mabey my coils are shot? because, like i said.. it runs really well out of boost..


