bse50

You should have mixed them to some gasoline.
That's where the importance of mixing well resides =)

paimon.soror

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Not sure about the crackle experience, pretty much looks the same in person, I will try tomorrow in some sunlight

paimon.soror

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very true, I just didn't have some gasoline laying around Haha

9krpmrx8

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I was planning on checking the Sock on my BHR fuel pump. I may just dip a glass in the tank and see what we have, that way we know how it is all mixing in the tank.

CFII

Hmm, My RX8 has 350 miles. I might just start adding some premix for the hell of it....
I think I might order a couple of bottles of idemitsu.

ganseg

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Make sure to run it till it is warm and then thru the RPM regularly. When it gets cold, it can take over 10 miles to warm up, so be patient. When you do premix, mix it with gas before you pour it it. May be less of on issue with Idemitsu, but regular 2-stroke oils will pour straight down to the fuel pump and can clog the "sock" that filters the oil.

The car is totally worth the extra effort - make the effort and enjoy the car!

Brettus

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Except in the southern hemisphere . Being upside down must have some advantages .....

ganseg

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R! O! F! L! M! A! O!

Nubo

That we're not afraid of fractions

Spirograph

I recently moved, and now instead of a 30 mile commute, I have a 3 mile commute which takes about 7 minutes. I'm in Phoenix, so it doesn't get too cold here. Is 7 minutes of driving enough to safely run up a 7500 RPM run at the end of the drive? Luckily I have long straightaways from a stop right at the end of each way of my commute.


paimon.soror, thanks for the pics. If you do another pass, try out some MMO with Idemitsu too if you have some. I mixed those two for awhile, but eventually decided it was safer to stick with Idemitsu only and just increase the amount used.

olddragger

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dont mix stuff--i posted about this over 2 yrs ago.. what you also should see is what settles out after setting for 24 hrs.

Spirograph

What I do now instead of mixing Ide/MMO is run only Ide at 6oz/ per fillup. Then 2-3 times per year I'll run a quarter tank of premix-less gas with a can of Seafoam added, and run it through all the way to empty--or run it all through within no more than a day so it's not sitting in there too long.

paimon.soror

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Agreed, after seeing it for myself I really dont think its worth it. Maybe every once in a few but not an all the time thing. We could really get scientific and find the density of these additives and compare them to the density of the 2 stroke, then the density of gasoline. That would give us an idea of what the molecules would actually do over time, but what would that really do anyway.

If I get a chance I will go grab one of those tiny containers and fill it with some gasoline and run the same tests just so we can get a visual.

What i actually really found interesting is the "residue / coat" that was left behind after draining and flushing the cup. Granted one could argue that whatever bacteria was present at the walls of the glass would affect exactly how the product reacts, it is interesting to see how the amsoil differs from the idemitsu. Looks like the idem. leaves a nice thin layer behind, somewhat evenly coated. Amsoil seems to bubble up a bit and get rather "chunky", if you look close you can actually see some deposits left behind (they look like little poppys). Not sure but I dont think that could really be good over time. Again, this is all in hindsight considering we havn't really seen the effects of gasoline in the mix.

paimon.soror

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Not sure if this is what amsoil does in general, or if it is a side effect of using fp+ with it

9krpmrx8

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^ Hmmmm. I'll just stick with Idemitsu in the tank and a good 2 stroke in the SOHN reservoir. If I had an S2 I would just premix Idemitsu at 1/2oz per gallon (or 1oz per gallon if you can afford it) and call it a day. I know premixing 1oz per gallon is overkill but in my opinion there are no negative effects in doing it.

nycgps

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other than your wallet gets thinner and thinner.

Isn't that bad enough ?

paimon.soror

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^^ lol, well I will play guinea pig and see how the car responds to amsoil after using idemitsu premix since its birth + 16miles. I gotta fill up on friday-ish so i will see if i can pour some gas in a container to take home and test with the premixes.

rotarygod

Please keep in mind that the very minute amount of oil that gets mixed into the compression stroke has milliseconds to "mix" well with the fuel and not several minutes in a stationary container.

paimon.soror

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Right, but wouldn't we be banking on the two fluids to be mixed inside the tank prior to entering the engine? I guess the milliseconds to mix well would affect those who are running an SOHN res.

Maybe I will make a video instead of pictures to show what the reaction is like upon first pour.

invasion08

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Pour and Pump, while driving around accelerating, braking, and taking turns at high speeds will help mix the premix and gasoline. Of course if you let premix and and gasoline just sit without any movement it will start to separate.

Brettus

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PhillipM

FWIW, we've stored mixed fuel/oil emulsions for a couple of months without touching it and it hasn't seperated. (Silkolene Comp 2 ester synth)

Dirt_Nasty

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I would assume that emulsification is the same for oil as it is for dressing and that would mean that it should never seperate if done properly. I could be mistaken, but I would assume the word means the same thing.

9krpmrx8

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Hmmm, maybe we should just premix Kraft Zesty Italian then. That **** has great Viscosity.

PhillipM

If the particle size is small enough and it's mixed properly, yes, I was told by Silkolene that it can start to settle out after 6 months though (as it's rarely mixed perfectly).