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Old May 7, 2014 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by blackenedwings
Haha, rock on man! I'm a boost junkie for sure. I am going to be running at NJMP Thunderbolt in a week, and its looking like I won't have enough competition in TT2 for tire contingency, so I may run TTU with my 500+ whp TT1 tune.
I checked out your setup on the EVO forum, very nice!
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Old May 7, 2014 | 03:23 PM
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Correct, no boost controller. I had a TorboSX HP MBC, but found I got better performance with just 15lbs of spring and no BC. I am leaving it where it is for daily, don't feel like swapping springs. Technically I do have a boost controller, the gas pedal. I just go easy for the most part, then punch it when I want to put a smile on my face
nice...it soudns great..well, i hope you have fun with it..i love the power that your car makes..just take it easy...well, at least we know someone runs that high PSi on everyday driving..it's a motivation man..keep it up
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Old May 7, 2014 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
The original dyno I was using was definitely optimistic . After finding this out I went to a dyno that my engine builder recommended as being more realistic.
The numbers I got on this dyno were down (in real terms)on what I achieved on the local (optimistic) dyno. If I dynoed on my local one I have no doubt I'd be up close to 400.
However, I'll hang my hat on 350+whp for my setup all day everyday .
I am just jerking your chain but really I don't believe dynos at all really unless I see other vehicles done at the same time, and even then it's still just numbers on a screen. What cannot be fibbed though are 1/4 mile times, etc. I can't wait to get some video locally of our different setups.
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Old May 7, 2014 | 03:44 PM
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driver mod is the biggest factor in 1/4time. The car can do well but really excel with the right driver/seat time.
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Old May 7, 2014 | 04:11 PM
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Yeah, depending on the car. Some cars are easy to run consistent times in. I look forward to driving other turbo 8's on the strip.
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Old May 7, 2014 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
What cannot be fibbed though are 1/4 mile times, etc.

Yep, trap speed is a good indicator

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Old May 7, 2014 | 07:23 PM
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What trap speed do people want to see? 105? 110+?

weight w/driver: 3200 lbs
trap speed in MPH: 105
WHP: 251

weight w/driver: 3200 lbs
trap speed in MPH: 110
WHP: 289

weight w/driver: 3200 lbs
trap speed in MPH: 115
WHP: 330

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Old May 7, 2014 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by pdxhak
What trap speed do people want to see? 105? 110+?

weight w/driver: 3200 lbs
trap speed in MPH: 105
WHP: 251

weight w/driver: 3200 lbs
trap speed in MPH: 110
WHP: 289

weight w/driver: 3200 lbs
trap speed in MPH: 115
WHP: 330
Is that off a calculator or from experience ?
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Old May 7, 2014 | 08:13 PM
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Congrats with the success slash, glad things have turned out good after the whole negative experience getting into the FI'd world most owners would have quit. Glad you stuck with it.
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Old May 7, 2014 | 08:37 PM
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Congrats with the success slash, glad things have turned out good after the whole negative experience getting into the FI'd world most owners would have quit. Glad you stuck with it.
Thanks Gregs! Truth be told, if it wasn't for the negative experience I don't know that I would have been so motivated.
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Old May 7, 2014 | 08:41 PM
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So seeing that the dialogue has changed from "dyno or it didn't happen" to "1/4 mile time/trap speed or it didn't happen" what does a power to speed comparison look like for our cars? I am curious to see. Maybe I can get to the strip this summer...
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Old May 7, 2014 | 08:41 PM
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Thanks Gregs! Truth be told, if it wasn't for the negative experience I don't know that I would have been so motivated.
You haven't had a lot of the drama most of the rest of us have had with blown engines etc . though .
I'm still pretty amazed with what you have managed to achieve with a stock block !
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Old May 7, 2014 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by pdxhak
What trap speed do people want to see? 105? 110+?

weight w/driver: 3200 lbs
trap speed in MPH: 105
WHP: 251

weight w/driver: 3200 lbs
trap speed in MPH: 110
WHP: 289

weight w/driver: 3200 lbs
trap speed in MPH: 115
WHP: 330
You need the time slip to tell the whole story.
60ft, 1/8 ect...
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Old May 7, 2014 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
You haven't had a lot of the drama most of the rest of us have had with blown engines etc . though .
I'm still pretty amazed with what you have managed to achieve with a stock block !
Fair enough I will add, though, that personally I think I'd be less pissed about a blown engine that was the result of no ill intention, vs the outright raping of someone taking my money and playing me for the fool. But I've not been in any other situation but my own, so I can't say for sure how it is to walk in anyone else's shoes. Just my 2 cent perspective. And I have the utmost respect for you and your accomplishments and advice!

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Old May 7, 2014 | 09:56 PM
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Fair enough I will add, though, that personally I think I'd be less pissed about a blown engine that was the result of no ill intention, vs the outright raping of someone taking my money and playing me for the fool. But I've not been in any other situation but my own, so I can't say for sure how it is to walk in anyone else's shoes. Just my 2 cent perspective. And I have the utmost respect for you and your accomplishments and advice!
Cheers
Yeah , don't know what happened but that does sound pretty horrible .
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Old May 7, 2014 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
Is that off a calculator or from experience ?
It was from a calculator.

Originally Posted by gregs
Congrats with the success slash, glad things have turned out good after the whole negative experience getting into the FI'd world most owners would have quit. Glad you stuck with it.
+1!

Originally Posted by slash128
So seeing that the dialogue has changed from "dyno or it didn't happen" to "1/4 mile time/trap speed or it didn't happen" what does a power to speed comparison look like for our cars? I am curious to see. Maybe I can get to the strip this summer...
I do not think a benchmark has been set for boosted 8s which is why I was asking what trap speed are folks looking for.

Originally Posted by firecran
You need the time slip to tell the whole story.
60ft, 1/8 ect...
Agreed. Plus several other things. Like properly running boosted 8s with people that know how to drive and are willing to put their car through a beating.
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Old May 7, 2014 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by slash128
So seeing that the dialogue has changed from "dyno or it didn't happen" to "1/4 mile time/trap speed or it didn't happen" what does a power to speed comparison look like for our cars? I am curious to see. Maybe I can get to the strip this summer...
You will be addicted. Well if you don't blow something up your first night out anyway, J/K
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Old May 7, 2014 | 11:28 PM
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You're trying to bait and jinx me aren't you
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Old May 7, 2014 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by pdxhak
It was from a calculator.



+1!



I do not think a benchmark has been set for boosted 8s which is why I was asking what trap speed are folks looking for.



Agreed. Plus several other things. Like properly running boosted 8s with people that know how to drive and are willing to put their car through a beating.
Thanks for the support!
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Old May 8, 2014 | 02:34 PM
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That would be plenty for me! Not looking to build a monster. ..
Just read this ......................
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Old May 8, 2014 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
Just read this ......................
lol I know, right? it is addicting!
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Old May 8, 2014 | 02:50 PM
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Cheers
Yeah , don't know what happened but that does sound pretty horrible .
I don't want to rehash it all here, it's in this thread for anyone interested:

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-maj...system-233417/

In summary: I handed over $6500 for his "kit" only to be met with months of lies, broken promises and eventually a big pile of metal garbage. After a 10 month battle I did finally got my money back via credit card dispute. It was ugly, however I feel vindicated now
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Old May 8, 2014 | 03:03 PM
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Ah ... I remember all that now .
I mistook your early complaints as someone who had got in over their head as happens so often around here .
Yes , I think you can feel vindicated
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Old May 8, 2014 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
Ah ... I remember all that now .
I mistook your early complaints as someone who had got in over their head as happens so often around here .
Yes , I think you can feel vindicated
My current build has been relatively painless and quite fun. It's been a work in progress that I started Dec 2013. It's based on the PTP kit, so of anyone wants to replicate I'm happy to share.
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Old May 11, 2014 | 05:37 PM
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I checked at the start of this thread, and on the Overlords sticky, but can't find a summary of your build details (I know most details are spread over the previous 25 pages of this thread...).

Are you able to provide a brief summary of all the changes/parts you have in your current build as at the time of the dyno? Given your figures it'd be good to identify any specific factors that have given you such success (apart from your obvious methodic execution and stickability).
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