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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 06:05 PM
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Let me just tell you that it works insanely well. I took a little road trip yesterday through the hills with two passengers, AC on, pushing hard to near redline through the curves, and I could not get the temps above 210F. I don't want to brag too much so early on but as of now it is working perfect. Splicing into the factory 5/8" heater hose was a breeze and for the money, this is just a great way to get the water temps down.

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I did that mod 3 yrs ago and have been trying to tell people how well it works ever since but it always felt like I was doing this ....


https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-aftermarket-performance-modifications-23/cooling-mod-idea-155235/

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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 06:07 PM
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delete the *** lights already ....
not that there is anything wrong with that

so what are *** lights?
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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 06:07 PM
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but it always felt like I was doing this ....
That becuase you live on an island.
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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 06:11 PM
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definitely delete the fog lights. better airflow.

Originally Posted by pdxhak
Are we there yet
where are we suppose to be headed?
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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by pdxhak
not that there is anything wrong with that

so what are *** lights?

sorry, it was a typo

he won't be needing fog lights making canyon runs around Brokeback Mountain ....
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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 06:14 PM
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bwhahaha now that is a great typo!
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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 06:14 PM
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sorry, it was a typo

he won't be needing fog lights making canyon runs around Brokeback Mountain ....
but they look cool !
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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by NgoRX8
where are we suppose to be headed?
FI Bliss! Oh wait that a pipe dream

It is like a bad chorus.

Install turbo kit/supercharger kit
Track down problems
Tune
Track down problems
Tune
Track down problems
Tune
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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 06:34 PM
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sweet--it worked out for you--dont forget to drill your thermostat.
looks like a stock set up!
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 04:18 PM
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Well guys, looks like I spoke too soon and will be adding an engine build to this thread as well. I was talking to OD about some coolant loss through the reservoir overflow hose but it looks like that was due to a change is system pressure caused by a coolant leak into the combustion chamber. I was actually going to rent a coolant systems pressure tester tonight after work but i just got this VIA email right now which pretty much confirms what I thought which explains the misfires.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9krpmrx8/5931654852/
So this pretty much confirms it to me that failure on a Mazda reman is just going to happen prematurely due to the use of used parts, it is just a matter of when. I have done everything to insure reliability in this engine (no cat, BHR ignition, SOHN, premix, etc.) and it still only lasted 30,000 miles.

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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 04:25 PM
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**** that sucks man. Turn the boost to 11
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 04:31 PM
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**** that sucks man. Turn the boost to 11
The timing is bad an I was hoping to get at least what I got out of the last reman (74,000) but I guess it's a crap shoot with reman engines. But such is the life of rotary owner.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 04:32 PM
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If I were to guess it would be as much a function of the rebuild process as it is the used parts.

Email Sent, Ill do what I can to give you a hand bro. Expect to see me soon.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by hoss -05
If I were to guess it would be as much a function of the rebuild process as it is the used parts.

Email Sent, Ill do what I can to give you a hand bro. Expect to see me soon.
I agree, now choosing a builder or doing it myself/ourselves is the question.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 04:45 PM
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Boost build...
Find an experienced engine builder, it will be way worth it reliability wise. You can't balance a rotating assembly in your garage and do a bunch of other tricks without the proper tools.
When there's the need I have to take the assembly to a shop to be balanced and that sucks money wise
You already had enough bad luck with reman engines, a garage build may just have other "crappy" outcomes.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 04:49 PM
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Hard luck man .

Good opportunity to get a built engine - go for aftermarket Apex seals !
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 04:51 PM
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None of that stuff matters if the build was not solid from the start and even if it was then pre-mix is the only item that will have any impact. Those other items don't affect engine life. Otherwise sorry to hear about your troubles. Sounds like the engine is at least still reasonably fuctional so at least it isn't a castrophic or down and out emergency situation.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
The timing is bad an I was hoping to get at least what I got out of the last reman (74,000) but I guess it's a crap shoot with reman engines. But such is the life of rotary owner.

I'm thinking alot of it has to do with the extreme heat you boys in the BIG state have to deal with also.... just that much more added stress on everything...

Shoulda had that extra Rad long ago...... Third times the charm though

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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by bse50
Boost build...
Find an experienced engine builder, it will be way worth it reliability wise. You can't balance a rotating assembly in your garage and do a bunch of other tricks without the proper tools.
When there's the need I have to take the assembly to a shop to be balanced and that sucks money wise
You already had enough bad luck with reman engines, a garage build may just have other "crappy" outcomes.
You make some valid points my friend. Thanks.

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Hard luck man .

Good opportunity to get a built engine - go for aftermarket Apex seals !
I am looking at all that now. I'd like to get a solid 40-50k on a boosted Renny if I can.

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None of that stuff matters if the build was not solid from the start and even if it was then pre-mix is the only item that will have any impact. Those other items don't affect engine life. Otherwise sorry to hear about your troubles. Sounds like the engine is at least still reasonably fuctional so at least it isn't a castrophic or down and out emergency situation.
Very true, now to pick a builder, hmmmmmm.

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I'm thinking alot of it has to do with the extreme heat you boys in the BIG state have to deal with also.... just that much more added stress on everything...

Shoulda had that extra Rad long ago...... Third times the charm though
I dunno, my second reman lasted 74,000 hard driven miles with very little premix and Castrol 10W-30 in Texas heat. This engine saw way less mileage since i don't drive nearly as much as I did with the previous engine. I just think the QC is lame at the reman plant and that either it was a shoddy build or parts were used that were not ideal or close to being out of spec. But at least I will get to see the inside of this one.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 06:34 PM
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BDC ported build? Rob at Pineapple Racing? BHR? Mazmart?
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 06:34 PM
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BTW sorry to see you have to get another motor.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 06:37 PM
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You shouldn't need to balance anything or perform any tricks unless you pop and apex seal and need to get a used rotor. Chances are they didn't line up the coolant seal properly and placed the joint on the exhaust side causing a small coolant leak.

Also I've seen pro builders come out with the same outcomes of garage builders.

It comes down to patience and skill, if you have a daily driver and have some extra funds its a fun little project. If you take your time and follow directions not rushing things you will end up with a clean build.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by pdxhak
BDC ported build? Rob at Pineapple Racing? BHR? Mazmart?
Decisions, Decisions. Tough ones.

Originally Posted by shadycrew31
You shouldn't need to balance anything or perform any tricks unless you pop and apex seal and need to get a used rotor. Chances are they didn't line up the coolant seal properly and placed the joint on the exhaust side causing a small coolant leak.

Also I've seen pro builders come out with the same outcomes of garage builders.

It comes down to patience and skill, if you have a daily driver and have some extra funds its a fun little project. If you take your time and follow directions not rushing things you will end up with a clean build.
This is something I have to consider. I just always wanted to do it at my leisure when I had a reliable daily.


I rented a coolant system pressure tester and pressurized the system and removed the L2 plug and coolant dribbled out so it's done for sure.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by shadycrew31
You shouldn't need to balance anything or perform any tricks unless you pop and apex seal and need to get a used rotor.
That's entirely not true. The balancing from the factory is ok but for high rpm driving you can do better.
Water and oil passages can be reworked, as well as the oil pump area. Add the random tolerances and side seal cutting stuff, ports clean-up and you have quite a few things to be done
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 01:48 AM
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building your own will be as big of a crap shoot as another reman, that said you likely are not interested in paying $8k+ for a real pro built engine broken in and dyno tested prior to shipping it to you either

pro built Renesis = Daryl Drummond, Rick Engman, David Haskell

then there is everybody else ...
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