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Old May 1, 2017 | 03:34 PM
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I will tell him to swap the bump stops first and see if that fixes it. Maybe it's just the bump stops.
I sincerely doubt it is the bump stops. If it is sagging under load, it is related to loss of upward pressure, which indicates the gas charge in the shocks (likely) or something with the springs (unlikely). Bump stops are simply really short, high rate springs that are engaged as the car bottoms out.

Your friend doesn't have junk in his trunk or fat friends, does he?
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Old May 1, 2017 | 09:57 PM
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Stock coils can't be counted on to stay alive.

I put a BHR GMC Yukon coil kit on mine to make sure.

Make sure coils are new or work.

Put a timing light on spark plug wires near the plugs when warm to see if firing.

You're really brave to have such an exotic car in Jakarta. I live in 2 worlds; West Texas with an RX8, and Bandung with a Toyota Innova diesel.
a fellow indonesian here on the thread? hahaa, well innova diesel is definitely one of the best family cars here! yeap, are u staying at texas for good or coming back? bring me some parts dammit! u know how rare those things are here.

Really need a buddy who knows their (rx8) **** around here. dang. i dont dare to dismantle anything as u know mine is 2003..(13 years)

See, the guy who took a year to rebuild this rx8 gets his parts from malaysia, and he just replaced stock coils for me, the car is made in asia why we dont have good parts in here.. i just dont get it.
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Old May 3, 2017 | 05:10 PM
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Currently having an odd experience. My car the other day was leaking anti-freeze but the dealership did a pressure test and found no leaks. The coolant light came up too and I had to replenish it long story. The only thing I could think of is evaporation in the resivuior tank due to the cap not being on tight enough. Oh and its a new cap and the radiator is new too. Not sure if it could be other places. Thoughts??? THanks in advance.
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Old May 3, 2017 | 05:12 PM
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What makes you think it was leaking? Did you see a drip? or was this solely based on having to add coolant?

What year is the car? How many miles?
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Old May 3, 2017 | 07:10 PM
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What makes you think it was leaking? Did you see a drip? or was this solely based on having to add coolant?

What year is the car? How many miles?

The last time I had things checked by the dealership was like March. Could letting the A/C or heater run for an extended period of time like 30 min plus a day have an effect on the coolant? Someone mentioned to me they saw Anti-freeze on my driveway, coming from my car. Idk anymore.

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Old May 3, 2017 | 07:33 PM
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If antifreeze was dripping on your driveway you would definitely be able to see it. It leaves a pretty distinct grungy residue on everything. You'd also be able to smell it clear as day when you got out of the car. If the system was pressure tested then I would find it hard to believe it's actually leaking out of the car.

What did the dealership do in march? Was this the pressure test? If so it's possible they didn't burp the system properly. I thought I blew a coolant seal a few months ago after doing a radiator swap. I was adding coolant almost every other day. After about a week of that it settled out and everything was fine. I swapped the radiator again a few weeks ago and made sure to properly burp the system and I never had to add coolant once. It can be a little tricky, and takes about an hour, so I could definitely see a tech filling it up and calling it a day.
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Old May 6, 2017 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Reoze
If antifreeze was dripping on your driveway you would definitely be able to see it. It leaves a pretty distinct grungy residue on everything. You'd also be able to smell it clear as day when you got out of the car. If the system was pressure tested then I would find it hard to believe it's actually leaking out of the car.

What did the dealership do in march? Was this the pressure test? If so it's possible they didn't burp the system properly. I thought I blew a coolant seal a few months ago after doing a radiator swap. I was adding coolant almost every other day. After about a week of that it settled out and everything was fine. I swapped the radiator again a few weeks ago and made sure to properly burp the system and I never had to add coolant once. It can be a little tricky, and takes about an hour, so I could definitely see a tech filling it up and calling it a day.
Thank you for the reply. I'll have to double check the driveway but I think there are no leaks. Just not sure if the leak could be coming internally from a faulty engine issue. Which now..I am out of warranttee for. So frustrating.... though the car sounded not bad today. Just cant check the oil level on the dipstick. The dipstick is saturated in this gelatin like milky oil substance. Its more prominent with the new engine. I never seen anything like this before. I had driven the car for like 2 hours and still I get this condition. Mazda Corporate is looking into my claim but I highly doubt they will support the ventilator parts and labor aspect but honestly it should have been included in the design of this vehicle. As the dealership even suggested.
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Old May 7, 2017 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Okki-Jakarta
a fellow indonesian here on the thread? hahaa, well innova diesel is definitely one of the best family cars here! yeap, are u staying at texas for good or coming back? bring me some parts dammit! u know how rare those things are here.

Really need a buddy who knows their (rx8) **** around here. dang. i dont dare to dismantle anything as u know mine is 2003..(13 years)

See, the guy who took a year to rebuild this rx8 gets his parts from malaysia, and he just replaced stock coils for me, the car is made in asia why we dont have good parts in here.. i just dont get it.
I'm retired and married a Javanese princess that was a metal researcher in 94.

As an American (Bule?) I'll always have a leg in the US, but live 3 months at a time (coming back the end of May) in Nw part of Bandung.

I'm not the dismantling type either, but made lots of subtle mods that prolong durabilty, since I used to be a fuel distributor and know oils.

Not much good stuff is for sale in Indonesia like the US, so we bring a few household items to cook with or maintain our stuff.

I'd love to talk cars with you if you can limp your 8 over to Bandung.

PM me with contact info.

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Old May 7, 2017 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mazdafan1892
The dipstick is saturated in this gelatin like milky oil substance. Its more prominent with the new engine. I never seen anything like this before.
Could be a busted coolant seal in the engine allowing coolant into the oil. How "new" is the new engine?
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Old May 7, 2017 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by mazdafan1892
The last time I had things checked by the dealership was like March. Could letting the A/C or heater run for an extended period of time like 30 min plus a day have an effect on the coolant? Someone mentioned to me they saw Anti-freeze on my driveway, coming from my car. Idk anymore.

05. 75k
This is not a car that likes to idle for 30 minutes although I've done it on fairly cool day, since the intake temp can get 190 f.

Also, many times people mistake the A/C condensation for Antifreeze; check color and smell.

My new 07 RX8 had an antifreeze smell when new for maybe 6 months, but went away I guess as the hoses hardened because I just now added 1/2 pint of distilled water at 10 years old.
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Old May 7, 2017 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 40w8
I'm retired and married a Javanese princess that was a metal researcher in 94.

As an American (Bule?) I'll always have a leg in the US, but live 3 months at a time (coming back the end of May) in Nw part of Bandung.

I'm not the dismantling type either, but made lots of subtle mods that prolong durabilty, since I used to be a fuel distributor and know oils.

Not much good stuff is for sale in Indonesia like the US, so we bring a few household items to cook with or maintain our stuff.

I'd love to talk cars with you if you can limp your 8 over to Bandung.

PM me with contact info.
Wait, are u in Bandung now?

In Bandung til end of May or going to Bandung at End of may?

Haha, sure, I'll going bandung this 13th-14th, mostly once a month as my parents in law lives there.

I PM-ed u btw.!

Cheers!
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Old May 7, 2017 | 11:22 AM
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It's probably your bedtime now, but keep the conversation going.

I leave on 20th for Bandung, so could meet you in several weeks if you like.
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Old May 7, 2017 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by IamFodi
Could be a busted coolant seal in the engine allowing coolant into the oil. How "new" is the new engine?
Firstly Thank you for replying. Its a year old. I hope its not that.

Originally Posted by 40w8
This is not a car that likes to idle for 30 minutes although I've done it on fairly cool day, since the intake temp can get 190 f.

Also, many times people mistake the A/C condensation for Antifreeze; check color and smell.

My new 07 RX8 had an antifreeze smell when new for maybe 6 months, but went away I guess as the hoses hardened because I just now added 1/2 pint of distilled water at 10 years old.
I will try to check the smell. Antifreeze is a little harder for me to smell to be honest. I can clearly smell gasoline but antifreeze I am not too sure. One thing that might be helpful is I have a dye somewhere that is a indicator. I have to look for it. One pours it in the antifreeze tank and it travels. Then with UV light and glasses spots occur where-ever it travels to. I have it somewhere. I inspected the engine bay today and no leaks as far as I know. The gunk like butter is not on the oil cap it may have dissolved but "I think" the dealership whipped it off. On purpose. Also I know alot of people say that a milky consistency is kinda normal but I think its very faint in those cases. Also there is no white smoke coming out of the tailpipes. I am concerned about the oil though cause I haven't added any since the dealership did my oil change in like March.

Thank you both for replying. Its much appreciated. Anyone else has any ideas please let me know.
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Old May 7, 2017 | 03:34 PM
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I would be hesitant about adding things to the antifreeze in our cars. Apparently the water jacket seals can be pretty sensitive to certain fairly common chemicals.
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Old May 7, 2017 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Reoze
I would be hesitant about adding things to the antifreeze in our cars. Apparently the water jacket seals can be pretty sensitive to certain fairly common chemicals.
I didnt know that. Thank you I will abstain from that then.
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Old May 8, 2017 | 01:31 PM
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I had RX3 in 73, and engine lost water seaL AT 75K MILES.

I hear people changing AF like a religion, and anything not Fl 22 is asking for trouble.

It's hard to put any wrong oil in engine, but wrong coolant for sure (funny reactions).
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Old May 8, 2017 | 06:54 PM
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Maybe not to the religion point, but IMO coolant should be changed AT LEAST every other year. It goes acidic with time and that's not good in bi-metal engines. And I think it's easier on the soft seals.
I don't like the water-wetter type stuff either. Nothing to point to, but I don't know how it plays with the insides. And with a good coolant/Distilled water mix and maintenance you shouldn't need them anyway. Especially if you can get by safely with a little more water to coolant...which many can but don't bother since it comes out of a jug 50/50.
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Old May 8, 2017 | 11:44 PM
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FL 22 is in nearly all Japanese cars, and is claimed to last 10 years.

Since it's been out a little over 10 years it may even be life of car.

BMW claims some coolants in some cars are life.

I wouldn't put any other type in anything.

I had a 97 Dodge stratus, and ran it 13 years with no change and only 1 quart distilled added.

I ran 02 Dodge Dakota 4.9l 12 years, and same deal.

I'm not religious as you can see.
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Old May 9, 2017 | 03:47 AM
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Agreed, if FL-22 is used with lower silicates and other "stuff". But not sure about 10 years. Probably use a pH strip once in a while.
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Old May 9, 2017 | 06:48 AM
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My dumb question is which way do I put in the k&n air filter??
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Old May 9, 2017 | 06:54 AM
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the side that is longer from the gasket goes down/towards the front of the airbox but dont use k&n in an 8. use a wix paper filter
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Old May 9, 2017 | 07:18 AM
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Ah I just bought this K&N one after I've read so much positives about it. And it being non-throwaway


So just so I'm clear bigger gasket goes on engine side??
Smaller is exposed to the elements?
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Old May 9, 2017 | 08:05 AM
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Ah I just bought this K&N one after I've read so much positives about it. And it being non-throwaway


So just so I'm clear bigger gasket goes on engine side??
Smaller is exposed to the elements?
Seriously. Don't use the K&N. It does not filter well enough for a rotary, and the 1HP claim is dubious at best. Use OE or Wix.
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Old May 9, 2017 | 09:02 AM
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Seriously. Don't use the K&N. It does not filter well enough for a rotary, and the 1HP claim is dubious at best. Use OE or Wix.
+1. There is data out there demonstrating K&N doesn't filter well, and there is no power gain in the RX-8.
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Old May 9, 2017 | 11:08 AM
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Just looking at the K&N is enough to know that once the dirt and K&N filter oil are are clogged (hmm....where does that dirty clogged filter oil go....) the K&N is just a tortuous path to letting in dirt. My intakes on my 95% road driven KLR650 motorcycle are very dirty with the K&N leading me to have to reclean the K&N about 4 times per season. (DPO f*-up the air box and put a K&N in and I have no way to go back to stock paper without many mods). I've tried light filter oil to heavy filter oil applications...all result in dirt in the intake manifold. The only improvement I found was to wrap the K&N and stuff the modded air box with industrial air filter cloth that's lightly soaked in 10W40 as the primary filter medium.
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