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Old Nov 17, 2015 | 10:51 PM
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Sorry if this is way off, the YouTube video is blocked here at work so I am going by the chirping description. If it is the belt or pulleys try using a bar of soap, and while running, hold it against both the ribbed side and flat side of the belt. Keep your fingers out of the moving stuff. If it goes away you know it's the belt. On rare occasion it can be the surface finish of the pulley too.
Sorry for the late reply man. All belts are right. We've checked. They're not coming from the belts. Check the video when you're home. It's not your typical belt slipping sound.
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Old Nov 18, 2015 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Nisaja
Sorry for the late reply man. All belts are right. We've checked. They're not coming from the belts. Check the video when you're home. It's not your typical belt slipping sound.
You would have gotten an answer by now if we could tell what it was from a video.
You need to buy a mechanics stethoscope and figure it out for yourself.



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Old Nov 18, 2015 | 08:58 AM
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Rkesh88 please get that compression test before buying. Low mileage doesn't mean as much as how the engine was maintained and driven. Even a low mileage RX8 that is eight years old can have compression issues. Better safe than sorry ,and replacing an engine.
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Old Nov 18, 2015 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BigCajun
You would have gotten an answer by now if we could tell what it was from a video.
You need to buy a mechanics stethoscope and figure it out for yourself.



Thanks Big Cajun. I'll tell my friend to get it and update you guys on our findings
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Old Nov 20, 2015 | 01:05 PM
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need help!

So on my 04 rx8, i already know im missing the under engine splash shield, but what i dont know is if im missing anything else. i took a few pictures from under the car, and was wondering if anyone could help me. any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Old Nov 20, 2015 | 04:45 PM
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^Not familiar enough to comment on the pictures, other than a sidenote that it's not so much a "splash shield" as a pretty important component of your cooling system. With out that pan in place, the air has a path other than thru your radiator and oil coolers.
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Old Nov 20, 2015 | 05:32 PM
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^Not familiar enough to comment on the pictures, other than a sidenote that it's not so much a "splash shield" as a pretty important component of your cooling system. With out that pan in place, the air has a path other than thru your radiator and oil coolers.
Yeah I know, that's the main piece I need. Just wondering if I was missing anything else. Thanks for the info!
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Old Nov 20, 2015 | 09:40 PM
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oil cooler line

Seeing as i can't start my own thread in the right location for this, this seems to be the most appropriate place to post this question....

So i was sanding down my oil cooler lines to paint with some high temp paint to slow further corrosion, and i noticed this kink in the line. I am unsure of whether this was there before I removed it, or if it was my doing (probably me). Is this kinked enough to affect oil flow and need to be replaced, or can i still use this line?




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Old Nov 20, 2015 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rx-fish04
So on my 04 rx8, i already know im missing the under engine splash shield, but what i dont know is if im missing anything else. i took a few pictures from under the car, and was wondering if anyone could help me. any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
You're missing the fender liner that goes behind the oil coolers. Does your car have a duct on the front of each oil cooler to direct air in? I can't tell from the pics. You need those to force air into the oil coolers. Get that undertray ASAP man. Without it, your car can overheat.

Edit: just noticed there are two triangular metal pieces on each side of the radiator area. Those don't look stock. I haven't seen them on my car.

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Old Nov 21, 2015 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by AGrotary21
... Is this kinked enough to affect oil flow and need to be replaced, or can i still use this line?...
As long as it's not made significantly worse during re-installation, I wouldn't worry.
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Old Nov 21, 2015 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by gwilliams6
Rkesh88 please get that compression test before buying. Low mileage doesn't mean as much as how the engine was maintained and driven. Even a low mileage RX8 that is eight years old can have compression issues. Better safe than sorry ,and replacing an engine.
How do you convince a buyer to get a compression test? This car is everything ive been looking for but the owner is stubborn into getting this test. Any one know any Indy shops that can do a rotary compression test in queens Ny?
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Old Nov 21, 2015 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Rkesh88
How do you convince a buyer to get a compression test? This car is everything ive been looking for but the owner is stubborn into getting this test. Any one know any Indy shops that can do a rotary compression test in queens Ny?
If it passes compression test, you offer to pay half of it.
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Old Nov 22, 2015 | 08:53 AM
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The decision to buy the car WITHOUT a compression test could cost you many thousands of dollars in the end. Way more than the cost of the compression test.
Here on the forum we see and hear the sad stories of folks caught up in their excitement for the car that didn't heed the advice about getting that compression test beforehand, then wind up spending big bucks to fix and/or replace a failing engine.

Why take that huge risk with your hard-earned money? An owner who refuses to get a compression test for a rotary car he is selling, may very well be hiding a problem. Do you want to buy that potential problem?
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Old Nov 23, 2015 | 01:53 AM
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So I've been doing a bit of reading about fuel trims and air to fuel ratios. I can't seem to find a definitive answer to what's considered "normal". Some say anything between -10 and +10 are normal. Some say between -5 and +5 are normal. What are the "normal" STFT and LTFT values?
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Old Nov 23, 2015 | 03:21 PM
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The ECU is Ok with it up to the +/- 20% range.

With good fuel system and tune they can easily stay in the +/-5% range.

OEM and a few years old...maybe slightly dirty injectors etc...I would want it to stay under +/- 10%

Not sure if that was a big help
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Old Nov 23, 2015 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by dannobre
The ECU is Ok with it up to the +/- 20% range.

With good fuel system and tune they can easily stay in the +/-5% range.

OEM and a few years old...maybe slightly dirty injectors etc...I would want it to stay under +/- 10%

Not sure if that was a big help
Thanks for the reply Dannobre and yes it was a big help! Most of the threads I read tend to to say that anything above +10% is a vacuum leak? Nothing is certain though.

While we're on the subject, my car's STFT is within +/-4% and LTFT is 4.7% at idle, and 6.2% when flooring. I noticed that after a long drive, the LTFT was 6.2% even at idle (and when flooring). MAF was around 6.7g/s. Anything I should worry about?
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Old Nov 23, 2015 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Nisaja
You're missing the fender liner that goes behind the oil coolers. Does your car have a duct on the front of each oil cooler to direct air in? I can't tell from the pics. You need those to force air into the oil coolers. Get that undertray ASAP man. Without it, your car can overheat.

Edit: just noticed there are two triangular metal pieces on each side of the radiator area. Those don't look stock. I haven't seen them on my car.
Thank you! Those triangular pieces are, I think, what's left of the old undertray. The previous owner may have cut it, I'm not sure. Anyways, thanks for the info!
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Old Nov 23, 2015 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by rx-fish04
Thank you! Those triangular pieces are, I think, what's left of the old undertray. The previous owner may have cut it, I'm not sure. Anyways, thanks for the info!
Anytime man. They look like they're made out of metal in the pic. If they're metal, they're not stock.
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Old Nov 23, 2015 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Nisaja
Anytime man. They look like they're made out of metal in the pic. If they're metal, they're not stock.
I took more pictures for you, not sure if they're any help, but here ya go.










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Old Nov 23, 2015 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rx-fish04
I took more pictures for you, not sure if they're any help, but here ya go.










Yeah you're clearly missing the fender liner that sits right behind the oil cooler. That could actually be a good thing haha. It'll cool the oil coolers more. Bad news is rocks and stones can damage the coolers. As to the actual oil cooler shrouds, I can't tell for sure from the pics. Do they have a sort of "frame" around them? To stop air from escaping from the sides?

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/262085071818
That's what I'm talking about.
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Old Nov 23, 2015 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Nisaja
Yeah you're clearly missing the fender liner that sits right behind the oil cooler. That could actually be a good thing haha. It'll cool the oil coolers more. Bad news is rocks and stones can damage the coolers. As to the actual oil cooler shrouds, I can't tell for sure from the pics. Do they have a sort of "frame" around them? To stop air from escaping from the sides?

04 05 06 07 08 Mazda RX8 Right Passenger Side Oil Cooler Shroud | eBay
That's what I'm talking about.
Nope there is nothing around the oil coolers. The previous owner got into a small accident and had most of the plastic shielding torn off. I guess I just need to get the vin numbers for those parts and I should be set. Thanks for your info!
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Old Nov 24, 2015 | 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by rx-fish04
Nope there is nothing around the oil coolers. The previous owner got into a small accident and had most of the plastic shielding torn off. I guess I just need to get the vin numbers for those parts and I should be set. Thanks for your info!
Alright. Anytime bro. Keep us posted.
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Old Nov 24, 2015 | 06:25 AM
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rxfish, i have a part out thread going. i know i have both oil coolers and lines and think i have the set of shrouds you need too if you are interested
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Old Nov 24, 2015 | 03:30 PM
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rxfish, i have a part out thread going. i know i have both oil coolers and lines and think i have the set of shrouds you need too if you are interested
are the shrouds in good condition and how much are you selling them for?
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Old Nov 24, 2015 | 03:32 PM
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Alright. Anytime bro. Keep us posted.
i found this ebay listing with the engine under cover and the oil cooler vents. would this be a reasonable price for these things?

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