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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by FizzvisVR
So first off i'd like to start off and say i just got my first RX-8 yesterday and i absolutely love it. It came with a mazdaspeed cold air intake unistalled. My Dumb question is what are the pro's and con's of this cold air intake? The seller said he had taken it off to smog the car and never ended up putting it back on, does it affect smogging the car? Thanks in advance!
Pros: A little better horsepower, sounds awesomer
Cons: It's not stock?

I was going to get this CAI before and I wondered about it affecting smog, but.. 2 things

1: It's just bringing in air, unlike changing how the fuel & air mixture leaves through the exhaust, that affects smog

and 2: It's a mazdaspeed aftermarket product, they wouldn't make it legal for use in California if it wouldnt even pass smog, that's some lost potential buyers, as there are a lot of RX8s in the SoCal region


Also, welcome
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 11:04 AM
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I have a serious dumb question,
Is it possible to retrofit a previous 13B, such as from an FD , and retain the RX8's engine management, Im assuming using all of the Renesis's sensors and electrical fittings. I understand the intake and exhaust are different, but with modifications ?Has this been done and to what success ?
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 12:53 PM
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Yes .... KDR has swapped an RE into an rx8 using int-x + stock ECU

HOWEVER, it is A LOT A LOT of work if you want to retain the stock ECU ... think about differences in the Intake Manifold and the OMP system for starters ...
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by stinksause
Yes .... KDR has swapped an RE into an rx8 using int-x + stock ECU

HOWEVER, it is A LOT A LOT of work if you want to retain the stock ECU ... think about differences in the Intake Manifold and the OMP system for starters ...

Thank you for the info.
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 04:59 PM
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Question, so I just got my Rx8 a week ago, and am loving it. But I am getting way worse gas mileage than what I've heard around here. My car is an 2004 6 speed (everything is stock) with 37k miles on it, and I'm getting under 15 mpgs's with about 75% of my driving on the highway and I drove it like a granny at first.

My guess is that the Spark plugs, coils, and wires haven't been changed. Could that account for about the 6 mpg's I'm missing?
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 05:16 PM
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15 mpg sounds a tiny bit low for hwy (though others may argue). Plugs/ coils could be an indicator. When were they last changed?
Granny driving isn't the best. You need to make sure to redline every now and then to clear out the carbon build-up ("a redline a day keeps the carbon away"). Try shifting between 3-4.5k rpm's. Clean your air filter and MAF sensor. Check your CAT for clogging/ destruction.
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 05:23 PM
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The dealership said that my car had the new spark plugs (not the stock 2004 ones) but I don't know if I believe him. I'm gonna confirm that today.
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 05:39 PM
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plugs and coils should be changed every 25k miles (give or take...)
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RX8Soldier
plugs and coils should be changed every 25k miles (give or take...)
Ewwwwww well .. ok that's what you and I may do ....
But I don't think that is really necessary.

AMF I just sold a set of plugs to a member who hasn't changed them in a 100k +-
I was like what ... naaaahhhhh

And this guys no's his car stuff ... he said it hasn't needed them.
Yeah I KNOW LIKE WTF

Just say'n
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 08:35 PM
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2nd quick dumb question for me. Are the NGK Iridium plugs only found online? or will a local autostore have them? Same question but for coils also? Thanks, Quite the noob in this department. P.s. Im LOVING the torque of the 8!!
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 08:36 PM
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When changing brake pads ... How do you know if the rotors are still "okay" or if they need to be resurfaced or turned etc etc etc ????

im a newwbbb
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 08:37 PM
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Oh one more question about the Spark plugs, Should i go with Mazda OEM ones? or with the Iridium plugs?
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by wcs
Ewwwwww well .. ok that's what you and I may do ....
But I don't think that is really necessary.

AMF I just sold a set of plugs to a member who hasn't changed them in a 100k +-
I was like what ... naaaahhhhh

And this guys no's his car stuff ... he said it hasn't needed them.
Yeah I KNOW LIKE WTF

Just say'n
absolutely true! I just recommend changing them for preventative measures. Also, your guy knew what he was looking for ("car guy"). Better to be safe than sorry, is my motto
Originally Posted by FizzvisVR
2nd quick dumb question for me. Are the NGK Iridium plugs only found online? or will a local autostore have them? Same question but for coils also? Thanks, Quite the noob in this department. P.s. Im LOVING the torque of the 8!!
I'm not too sure about that. I think you can, but they're usually sold at a higher price.
And, are you serious about the torque???
Originally Posted by Slickaxer
Oh one more question about the Spark plugs, Should i go with Mazda OEM ones? or with the Iridium plugs?
OEM plugs are fine. It's what I'm sticking to (unless I go FI... )
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Rotary-RX8
When changing brake pads ... How do you know if the rotors are still "okay" or if they need to be resurfaced or turned etc etc etc ????

im a newwbbb
search here n00b!!!
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 10:08 PM
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1- So is the 16x coming or what? Every day it's a new story. Active-G this, Sky-G that. Releasing in 2011, 2012, 2013... then not before 2014. What exactly is the problem? They can't meet their mpg/tq expectations?

2- Why when you compare cars with similar displacements, turbo cars usually have high mpg, but rotary is the opposite?

3- Why is it not viable to have a twin turbo setup like the rx7 on the 8? I asked this on another forum and they told me people who ask for that don't understand how the 8 works...
Ok, I'm pretty technical, but I'm not a rotary expert, so tell me, why does the exhaust port location preclude the possibility of a twin turbo?
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RX8Soldier
plugs and coils should be changed every 25k miles (give or take...)
Coils too? really? I changed pretty much everything to do with the ignition system recently due to my turbo install, but I've put more than 35k miles without changing either, good to know though...
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 10:13 PM
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OOh more more, does a cold air intake really make any appreciable difference in this car? I'm using the one with the Greddy kit which is just ridiculous. It basically lies in the HOTTEST part of the engine bay. Would it be better to buy a different intake system or build some sort of makeshift heat-shield for that intake?
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 10:29 PM
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search here n00b!!!
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 11:52 PM
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1- So is the 16x coming or what? Every day it's a new story. Active-G this, Sky-G that. Releasing in 2011, 2012, 2013... then not before 2014. What exactly is the problem? They can't meet their mpg/tq expectations?

2- Why when you compare cars with similar displacements, turbo cars usually have high mpg, but rotary is the opposite?

3- Why is it not viable to have a twin turbo setup like the rx7 on the 8? I asked this on another forum and they told me people who ask for that don't understand how the 8 works...
Ok, I'm pretty technical, but I'm not a rotary expert, so tell me, why does the exhaust port location preclude the possibility of a twin turbo?

1- don't know
2- Not true - a turbo rotary will get better mileage than NA at same speed/acceleration rate .
3- The twin turbo on an RX7 was only 'twin' so that one turbo could spool up early and the other was for higher in the power band . Conversely a well designed modern turbo can achieve the same thing without the need for all the additional complexity . In theory it could be done - but you would just be feeding the chickens for bragging rights.
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Old Apr 14, 2011 | 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by superhypered
I have a dumb question now..

Miata.. or a Pinto?

Why are you trying to make it difficult... of couse, pinto... duhhhhhhhhh...
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Old Apr 14, 2011 | 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Rotary-RX8
When changing brake pads ... How do you know if the rotors are still "okay" or if they need to be resurfaced or turned etc etc etc ????

im a newwbbb
if the brake pads arent so worn, then they wont scratch into the rotor and engrave a nice circle into it

if you brake and it feels like it pulsates while you brake, or it sort of has brake pressure but then loses that pressure back and forth, then they're warped

also they have to be so and so millimeters, you'll have to search this time

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Why are you trying to make it difficult... of couse, pinto... duhhhhhhhhh...
i said it was a stupid question, not a hard question
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Old Apr 14, 2011 | 03:01 AM
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1- don't know
2- Not true - a turbo rotary will get better mileage than NA at same speed/acceleration rate .
3- The twin turbo on an RX7 was only 'twin' so that one turbo could spool up early and the other was for higher in the power band . Conversely a well designed modern turbo can achieve the same thing without the need for all the additional complexity . In theory it could be done - but you would just be feeding the chickens for bragging rights.

Right, the rx7 turbos were staggered if I recall, one was slightly smaller. One thing that bugs me about the rx8 which rx7 didn't seem to have at all was that insufferable lag before 2.9k rpm. The Greddy turbo ,for example ,is tiny, so I can imagine on a bigger turbo the lag must be even worse. If it were a large engine with a big displacement I'd say big deal, you probably still have a ton of torque. I notice the 3071R replacement that MM offers/ no longer offers? spools "just about as quickly" as the Greddy one, I get that's not the point of it,I'm just saying. It'd be great to have a little more front end power , 10-15 hp would be fine, I'm not looking to burn tires here, just not be passed by 1982 corollas for that first second and a half .

Ok so stupid question #204, which I'll save for posterity, if MM still did offer that upgrade, which do you feel offers a smoother acceleration curve? That upgrade or the BNR?

#205 Are there any California C.A.R.B. turbos/sc's or kits out there?
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Old Apr 14, 2011 | 03:17 AM
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One thing that bugs me about the rx8 which rx7 didn't seem to have at all was that insufferable lag before 2.9k rpm. The Greddy turbo ,for example ,is tiny, so I can imagine on a bigger turbo the lag must be even worse. If it were a large engine with a big displacement I'd say big deal, you probably still have a ton of torque. I notice the 3071R replacement that MM offers/ no longer offers? spools "just about as quickly" as the Greddy one, I get that's not the point of it,I'm just saying. It'd be great to have a little more front end power , 10-15 hp would be fine, I'm not looking to burn tires here, just not be passed by 1982 corollas for that first second and a half .
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Who (in their right mind) drives a rotary around at under 2.5 - 3k anyway ?

Originally Posted by jaymzs66

Ok so stupid question #204, which I'll save for posterity, if MM still did offer that upgrade, which do you feel offers a smoother acceleration curve? That upgrade or the BNR?
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Given the chance I would go for the new GTX 3071 (or 76) over either of those .
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Old Apr 14, 2011 | 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
Who (in their right mind) drives a rotary around at under 2.5 - 3k anyway ?
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That was EXACTLY what I was thinking.

I can't even remember the last time I even cruised at that rpm, typically around 4k even in 2nd gear.

I might drive slowly through a parking lot in 1st around 2.5k-3k

Rev that puppy up!!!!
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Old Apr 14, 2011 | 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by jaymzs66
OOh more more, does a cold air intake really make any appreciable difference in this car? I'm using the one with the Greddy kit which is just ridiculous. It basically lies in the HOTTEST part of the engine bay. Would it be better to buy a different intake system or build some sort of makeshift heat-shield for that intake?
If you are turbo'd I would imagine it means less than if you where NA.

Aftermarket cold air intakes do little over the stock cold air intake.
However if you bought your car used it someone had installed a crappy (for the lack of a better term) "hot air intake", you will notice a difference.
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