¿has the "european access port thread" been deleted again? ......

I would like to ask a question about the initial calibration. Sorry if it has been answered before, but reading 200 pages is not very appealing.

I just bought the european AP, and some months before bought the infamous MS resonated midpipe. So the midpipe will never come, and I will be buying any other resonated midpipe when BHR/RB/Jason has it ready. As the AP will hopefully arrive sooner than the pipe, would this affect that initial calibration procedure if it is NOT done in my final setup? I mean, we have to read if there is a positive or negative value, and the value... Would that value be different if I had the midpipe installed? Do you recommend waiting to install the AP until a midpipe is installed?

Thank you in advance.

Regards.

 

Ah... Didn't realize it was that significant of a gain. Maybe if I can squeak through Christmas without spending all the money I've saved up for it, I'll get an AEM/Mazdaspeed. Or if I get a bigger bonus from work than I expect (verrrrry unlikely)

Anyway, I'm psyched the AP does datalogging now, I can't wait to try it out..

 

Yeah. We have some difficulties with another European vendor.
Not a big deal.


It should have no negative effect.
If the calibration needs to be adjusted, you will know.
The data readout on the AP is very useful.

 

You know what - that would be an EXCELLENT experiment.

No, I don't have any MAF data on that.
But now I want to get some!

I guess I'll put out a feeler to AP customers that don't have an aftermarket intake and see what their flows look like and then get new data when one puts on an intake.
We could probably do the work ourselves with Flashwing, Easy or on your car if we find ourselves with an afternoon and nothing else to do.

 

Easy / Flash have AEM and MS, don't they?
Ray's car isn't a fair test mule since it's ported but find yourself another car and get someone to do some RB testing and you'll be off to a good start.

I'd help but I don't have a stock intake and I'm probably too lazy to remove my RB to install a stock intake, even if I had one.

 

HEY MM i want to switch tot he yukon coils.. i currently have the mazsport coils.. what would you recommend me do?? as far as the COBB unit?? if i do end up sswitching to the stock coils in the meantime would the calibrations still function properly?

 

Jeff! When are you coming back NE!!! Few hours driving distance from NY?!

 

When I do my datalogging I'll attach MAF data for you, if I can figure out how to do it.

 

put them on. We're all going to start the process over with the new maps so might as well be logging with all the proper hardware

 

what exactly has changed?

 

Yea but does that mean i should switch to stock mode???? as calibration or keep it the same or just switch to the stock cobb stage 1 map

 

05RX8 - did you ever receive calibrations that are adjusted for the Mazsport coils from me? I'm pretty sure you did not.
So what is the question?

A bunch of hard-code things that affect the way the MAF and injector scaling work.
Plus, I've found an easier way to get the end user dialed-in without all of the obsessive-compulsive teeth gnashing that some people engage in about this stuff.

 

I'm assuming the tuned maps you send out do not have these updates? Would there be any differences driveability and power wise?

Would it be possible for me to get a set? As I believe i'm good til the first week of Jan or so...although since it's quite cold here I'm not too sure how useful a 2nd gear WOT run would be....since I don't think it would be possible to do a 3rd gear run almost anywhere right now.

 

jeff your European Cobb thread seems to have been deleted?

 

Jeff: Will you be sending out new basemaps, or do we have to request it? I just tried the last map I got and it was very lean at WOT, I'm curious if that's because of these possible COBB problems you mention so the logging is wrong, or if I should submit it for change and request a cat-friendly map as well.

 

Everyone - Just stand by for a little bit.
The first post of this thread is about to receive a massive change.
EVERYONE will have access to a new "base map", from which we will build out.
All customizations will be addressed ad seriatim after the "base map" is acquired.

If your car is already running gang-busters, then don't worry about it.

Yeah. I was treading on eggshells with a few Authorized Cobb dealers in Europe.
We (Cobb, me, them) have an agreement about delivery of units to Europe before January and the dealers there hold the belief that mentioning the availability after that date is the same thing as making it available before that date.
I guess I don't blame them - they have a very short window through which to attempt to cannibalize my impact on that market.
So, for the time being, I'm not mentioning the fact that I can deliver European units until after the January 20th window.

 

^^Damn commies...

Oh and here is a comparison flow rate between OEM and RB in 2nd gear on my car when I did the swap. It's not perfectly clean data, I think the dips are abberations, but the general idea is there the RB intake looks like ~8-10% increase in airflow.

 

I just swapped out my mazsport coils since i want to get the BHR coils.. but do the dwel setting need to be changed?? or can i still run the MM base map that was in my COBB when i purchased it??

 

Tantalizing!!

S

 

Just because the MAF reading increases doesn't necessarily mean there's more air there

 

Well, unless you are playing with the MAF calibration, yes it does.

 

Right. Same map was used. The RB tube is the same size as stock except maybe a little rounder due to it being a metal tube instead of injection molded plastic.

 

Assuming an intake properly designed for use with the OE MAF/PCM. I'm guessing the Injen's MAF readings aren't all that accurate.

 

AH, yeah. True.
If the intake is purposefully designed to screw with the MAF reading, the numbers wouldn't be valid.
I should build a test rig manometer or something.

 

test rig manometer thingy majiggy can wait, you got enough on your plate.

Oh, and Jeff: It returns my voicemail or it gets the hose.