Actually looks amazing... granted that and it being RWD is really all it has going for itself in my eyes. Surprised to see one of these today, thought it was a Maserati at first.

Anybody else even know this thing existed?

edit: here's a link to it

http://www.scion.com/cars/FR-S/

 

This post has been up for over 8 hours and not one taker? I'm shocked.

 

https://www.rx8club.com/lounge-4/rx8-over-brz-what-you-think-231639/
https://www.rx8club.com/general-automotive-49/subaru-brz-vs-honda-s2000-drag-race-234038/
https://www.rx8club.com/general-automotive-49/brz-vs-toyota-86-vs-roadster-%40-twin-ring-motegi-232630/
https://www.rx8club.com/general-automotive-49/brz-competitor-232208/
https://www.rx8club.com/general-automotive-49/scion-fr-s-dyno-video-231881/
https://www.rx8club.com/general-automotive-49/brz-tested-0-60-quarter-slalon-ummm-231105/
https://www.rx8club.com/general-automotive-49/subaru-brz-pricing-announced-%2424k-base-%2427k-high-spec-226084/
https://www.rx8club.com/general-automotive-49/official-toyota-gt86-2596lbs-230295/
etc...

Subaru BRZ = Scion FR-S Same car, different front bumper and lights (directly interchangeable) and different spring rates.

 

Is this a serious question? There has been a lot of discussion here and just about every other car forum on the internet.

 

its ugly anyway

 

you thought it was a Maserati? have you actually ever seen a Maserati in person? (please read the previous questions in Clarkson's voice)

 

I would agree. The last minute changes they made looks terrible. They should have left it alone.

 

exactly, when i saw the last concept I honestly said wow, and then the designer got a stroke and while drawing the last sketch.. and in no way does that look like a maserati in no shape or form.

 

Funny last night on the I-75 there was a VR 8 in front of me and a Subie BR-Z riding next to it. It was the first time I was able to see both cars next to each other, and the wife and I agreed, the 8 is still a sexier car. Long live the RX8!

 

Have you been living in a cave for the past year?

 

Looks like a Hyundai, KIA, and Toyota had one big NASTY orgy and **** this thing out... OR someone broke the ugly stick on it, not sure... UGH, then there will be the "Ricer" versions too... Great...

 

Scion is like a Hyundai to me, even though.

 

This thread fails, I am so tired of hearing of these POS FRS/BRZ's. There were two FRS's at the last coffee and cars, I was as unimpressed in person as I was with them on the internet.

 

looks sexy to me.

 

 

 

ugliest rims ever

needs aggressive aftermarket rims
needs a aggressive drop
needs amber corner delete/blacked out
needs some sleeker mirrors
needs eyelids

needs more power.

then it would be tolerable. Personally i wouldnt buy it, supposedly it has a high compression motor too. Sports cars are concerned, i wouldnt buy anything slower than the 8 with less seats unless it was a lotus.

 

Personally I see a resemblance (even if a slight one). It's obvious which one I like better, but it's not as if I see either one on a daily (er even yearly) basis so Im basing that off a quick glance.

As for living in a cave, when it comes to scions, ya I wouldn't have a clue about any of their new cars as I know I will never EVER buy one and I rarely wander over to this section of the forums (or any other car forums).

 

[QUOTE=EricB;4277962]ugliest rims ever


/QUOTE]


The rims ruin it for me too...I've also heard the wheels have a weird bolt pattern which greatly reduce your selection aftermarket.

 

You can say that about most cars if your picky enough. the Rx8 looks better dropped, with aftermarket wheels and clear corners, so technically by your standards the rx8 is ugly too. Car companies have to make cars to some degree universal. They have to make the vehicle useable in all types of weather and for all types of drivers. Some people buy an rx8 as a daily driver, that is why it isn't as low as it could be, same with the FRS, they are not going to drop it to the ground because it'll turn people off who want to drive it all the time and pick up groceries.

They are also trying to be affordable, disposable income is going down, so popping out $40,000+ vehicles expecting high sales in today's market is not a smart investment. But a $25,000-30,000 "sports car" attracts a larger market and those that want a fun vehicle without spending a ton of money (if they don't have it).

rx8 does the quarter mile in 14.8, so does the FRS. 0-60 times are similar too.

I'm in no way saying that the FRS is better then the rx8, i'm just saying that down the road to those looking at the next vehicle after the 8, its not a bad choice.


and whats with people bashing scion so much.. they are a branch of toyota, we're talking Japanese the same as mazda. Toyota as been around a long time and makes some of the most popular well known vehicles on the road.

 

Fixed that for you.

BC.

 

I'm in no way saying that the FRS is better then the rx8, i'm just saying that down the road to those looking at the next vehicle after the 8, its not a bad choice.

It's not a bad choice, it's a horrible choice. If it is not as good as an RX8, then why trade in for one? Step up, not down. Aesthetics aside, this car is not comparable to an RX8 so why would you want one then? They really don't offer anything over what you already have. Most RX8 owners step up to say an M3 or the like, not this piece of garbage. Stop trying to polish a lump of coal. As far as your assumption that the FRS is almost as fast, keep in mind that a V6 Camry could smoke an 8 in a straight line, so that doesn't hold any water either.

 

I think too many people had high expectations for these cars which resulted in negative reactions to the reality. It's a decent looking car with decent performance at a generally low price. It is better balanced than most other options in that price range which is why a lot of the alternatives are silly to point out.

A lot of the comments I've seen here are the same comments that people made about the 8. Many people disliked the design, said it was slow and would point out what other cars you could get in the same price range. Obviously, we disagreed and enjoyed the 8.

Personally, I can't say I see myself buying one. My mind might change once we see how the aftermarket market develops. My biggest hope is that it will turn out to be a good platform to work on. As a stock car, I can agree that it's not overly exciting.

 

Just going to point out here that this statement isn't accurate. It has superior fuel economy, superior size for anyone that prefers smaller cars, and it even has a piston engine for those people that find the rotary to be the biggest detractor of the 8.

Insisting that no one would want a given car is an exercise in futility. After all, people bought cars like the Aztec, the Smart ForTwo, etc...

Every single car ever made has points that will make it appealing to SOMEONE. They don't need to appeal to EVERYONE. In fact, no car ever made has appealed to 100% of the population. That the FR-S / BRZ would find people here that would consider it seriously should not come as a surprise because it shares so much in common with the 8.

"Upgrades" and "downgrades" are entirely subjective to the point of view of the person buying. And if you aren't the one buying for whichever reason is your particular flavor, bashing someone for having a situation in life and/or preferences that would make it appealing is doing quite an injustice to the car community as a whole. What makes the car enthusiast community so great is it's differences. Do you really wish everyone to have the same opinion that you do? It's not only not a reality, but would be quite unpleasant to have come true.

 

Quite true. I'll admit I often want to be self-righteous and laugh whenever I see the stereotypical civic with the loud exhaust and big rear wing etc., but then I think hey... at least the kid has a passion, at least he (or she) loves driving and owning their car.

There was a time (looooooong ago) when even I clipped playing cards into the spokes of my bicycle to make it go (sound) zoom zoom, lol.