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Old 08-18-2010, 01:14 PM
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lol, glad I could help.
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any trick on takin out the main bolt in the pully. its wanting to spin the rear wheels when i get on it with a breaker bar. lol.
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yes put it in gear 6th works best, clutch pedal out. once you break it free. put it back in neutral clutch pedal in. take the bolt out and continue from there.
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6th gear, someone on the breaks, something is givin somewhere down the line.
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Im confused.... ok try 1st gear then. As if you were parking it without the e brake. the clutch pedal is at its resting position correct? the wheels should not be turning at all.
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I have the ACT flywheel and was able to shove a crowbar into the cutouts through the startermotor hole . You may be able to do something similar .
Still needed a whacking great pipe on the end of a 1/2"drive breaker bar to shift it though .
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Originally Posted by Phish806
any trick on takin out the main bolt in the pully. its wanting to spin the rear wheels when i get on it with a breaker bar. lol.
Rest the end of the breaker bar on the ground and crank the starter motor.
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no oil in the motor, should i still try the starter breaker bar thing?
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Originally Posted by Phish806
no oil in the motor, should i still try the starter breaker bar thing?
Of course. It's not like it is gonna start!
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lol good point. I will have to try that tomorrow. Its always the little things that hold up progress. Gets frusterating.
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yea when we first took mine off... well the picture speaks for itself.

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I have a ginourmous breaker bar if i need it, however as i mentioned before its the fact that the motor/trans keeps spinning when you really give it some force. I dunno if its the clutch slippin since its a new clutch or if my 145lb *** is so strong and burly that i can just overpower my car haha. I may try the starter trick tonight when i get off of work. If that dont work, i will drop the starter out and see if i cant grap a spot on the flywheel with a screwdriver. Just hope i dont break any teeth off of the fly.

Oh, and the oil pan removal, took maybe five minutes
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Pfft took me half a day. I think we went overboard on the gasket sealant though.

That really amazes me I was able to tq mine down to 180ft lbs with the trans in gear.

Might want to give it a go the added tq from the breaker bar can help allot.
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Got the main e shaft bolt out and the front cover loose. My next issue is takeing the front plate off there are three studs that the water pump bolt to. Two come out with the front plate and the third stays in the "block". Is the third stud removeable? Can it be screwed out of hte block? I am having the issue of bringing the front plate straight forward. It will come forward but the bottom of the plate hits the loweer crossbar in the engine bay causign it to bind and not come car enough forward to get off the stud. If i could remove the stud it would be way easier to remove the plate. My other option is to un bolt the AC compresser and rotate the front plate up to clear the cross bar then sliding it forward. That AC compresser bolts are jsust a bitch to get to and to remove. Any suggestions on the next move fellas?
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2 nuts and back the stud out
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Take the ac compressor off you can get to the bolts from the bottom of the car.
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Have you noticed any problems yet
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Maybe hes buried in car work?
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got side tracked with other plans tonight... hooefully i will get back at it tomorrow morning. Prolly use two nuts and remove the stud then it should jsu slide right off. only thing i have noticed so far is the first rubber seal that i got to had a small tear in it. Nothing major or crazy though. have not gotten to the good stuff. anyway i am takign pics as i go so i will post some up tomorrow if i can get back to the car. So keep checkin back for sure.
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Rubber seal?

I'm assuming you mean the front main seal?

Your going to need to order a new one of those.

Wait until you get the stack off to see exactly what you need to order, I'm guessing so far you need both thrust bearings, thrust washer, and an end play spacer. I hope thats it...

Don't forget to order from Atkins they are much more reasonably priced than Mazdatrix, I save $70 by going through Atkins versus Mazdatrix for the identical order.

I'll b e install shocks for another forum member all day tomorrow and working on my car as well. Look forward to the updates, hopefully we can get your beast running.
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Got some pics for you guys. Check out the parts.

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WOW...

I wish you told us about that pulley wobble earlier, before you started data logging and what not... If you did I'm sorry I didn't catch your post.

**** man...

can you get me a better pic of the last picture and clean up the part?
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On the plus side you only have one bearings worth of metal shavings in your oil system...

Did you do that damage to the front main seal or what it like that? it looks like someone pried it out with a screw driver and reused it.
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i am 99 percent sure that it was not me, however anythign is possible. Before i removed it, i was thinkin to muself how i need to be carful and not tear it.

I mentioned the pully wobble before, but i also stated that i did not think it was enough to be causing any issues. So i am the only one to take blame for not spotting it sooner. But even that was after the data logging and all that stuff.

I got to th first bearing and saw it looking all perfect and shiny and was thinking i did alot of work for nothing. I was starting to not to be happy. Not that i was happy it was like his but just wanted all this work to be for soemthing.

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Also, aftermarket oil temp gauge has been acting a little funny so i did nto think anything of it. But could this be the reason my oil temp gauge ran kinda hot the first time we started it and let it run for awhile. after the first time it read right where it should be. I mean it wasnt like over heating hot but i noticed it was a little warmer then normal.


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