he is correct

EDIT: I am no longer posting here

 

I am not doubting the seafom making it through the injectors, I am doubting it doing anything and fixing a stuck injector. Also as 9k mentioned the liquid would take the path of least resistance.

The only solution is to buy new ones or used ones that aren't failed. You can attempt to clean them but that will require soaking them in parts cleaner for an hour or so then spraying them with carb cleaner.

 

I'll be farting around with my car tonight removing my failed midpipe. I'll take some vacuum readings to put this BS to rest.

 

I read somewhere that you can mix Seafoam with motor oil. Perhaps that will help clean out the oil injectors?

Is that a no-no?

 

It's not worth the possible damage it could cause by destroying the oil film.

 

while you are at it also hook up a gauge to the line going to OMP..my guess is that there will be some vacuum there.

 

So your theory is that there is vacuum at the oil injector end and at the intake side right?

Oh, and you didn't respond about there being vacuum at the intake side in front of the throttle plate. Are you going to admit you are wrong? Or are you still standing by you "epic fail" comment?

 

Either way, if you use the Sohn adapter, you will probably be a million times less to get jacked up injectors. Once dirt and gunk gets in there, it probably takes it's toll.

 

I understand air is always flowing while the engine is running. But the only way to create a readable vacuum is to have some type of resistance. (exp - clogged air filter).

Since there is only a very very slight vacuum in the accordian tube, the engine only develops a slight miss when leaking from this point (only at low rpms though..)

I'm sure you already know all that though.


-Agreed





-Agreed.




Sure didn't.



I think long enough for the smell to go away after a few revs would be a good call.




I did the same right after work. Here are my results, please share yours too.

Also, It did smoke this time but only on the first rev, wasn't much.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTFf6DeOIEE


-Shawn

 

You cant know by Engine Number 'code'....only Vehicle Chassis or Vin #, if you have it, I can tell you exactly when your 09 engine was made.

 

Wrong thread (I guess) but thanks for finally answering my questions. My car nearly dies when the tube is removed from the accordion tube. Weird.

I still don't understand how there is full vacuum (there should not be) of 15 at the oil injectors but your video speaks for itself I guess

Now I will definitely be doing this when I get home


Are you consuming any oil at all?

 

Please post your results, there could be something wrong with my car, I wouldn't really know. I've only owned this car for 7 months.

-Shawn

 

Are you consuming any oil at all? Also, I have two other 8's at the house to test this on as well.

 

Bump...

 

Oh man, **** just got real.

 

^ Na man its not like that. I just want facts, I'm not the smarts person here. But you can see why I want to discuss it, with the end result being a fact. Wouldn't it be great if this actually could help someone with low oil consumption problems, and prolong engine life?

@9k -

Yes, but very little at first. In fact so little I called my only friend with an 8 (owned it for about 5 years now.) To see if it was normal, he said it sounded a little low but it could be my driving habits.

The first 300 miles on the car I changed the oil 3 times to get sort of a flush.
After...
I burned about....
- 0.5qts in 2,000 miles. (5w-30)
- 0.8qts in 2,000 miles (5w-30)
- 1.5qts in 2,000 miles (10w-40) (I performed the first try somewhere in this oil change)
- 0.5qts in 800 miles (10w-40) (Current oil, will be checking level next fill-up)


-Edit-
Driving habits are pretty normal for an 8 owner, I think. Warms up for about a min maybe less (summer time). Very light driving till about 15mins into my trip. 4-5k normal shifting/driving. +8k pull maybe every other day, or when/where permitted.


-Shawn

 

But on a serious note, wasn't there a TSB regarding installing a series II accordion tube on a series I resulting in excess oil consumption? This was due to the fact that there is engine vacuum applied to the oil metering nozzles. The tube on the intake is there to counteract the engine vacuum with intake manifold vacuum. It makes sense to see vacuum on the OMP side.

-Lawrence

 

Just kidding about that Shawn, not calling you a smart *** or anything. In fact I appreciate that you brought this up, as I have never seen this issue discussed on this forum.

 

Your consumption seems normal now. It doesn't seem normal for there to be that much vacuum at the oil injector nozzle at high RPM, seems like the oil would be sucked right out. Beside everything i have read indicates there should not be. However, what should be and what is are two different things.

If I'm wrong, i'm wrong, it's no skin off my back so long as I learn something.

Now I'm off to go prove you wrong!!

 

I await defeat.

 

Thank you Shawn!

you have confirmed everything I have said...

1. there is no vacuum in the throttle body boot, that was pretty obvious but some had doubts :-)

2. there is vacuum on the OMP nozzles hose that connects to TBB

3. seafoam sucked in this hose makes its way trough OMP nozzles into combustion chamber

some of you might wonder how is the vacuum in the OMP hose created when there is a check valve on the nozzle. it is simple one way check valve is there to prevent things going out of the nozzle trough the port #1 but it allows engine to draw the air trough the same port therefore creating the vacuum..



so running seafom trough OMP will be beneficial for the nozzle cleanness which is critical for proper lubrication of the engine seals.. I would recommend this procedure as a part of regular maintenance on our cars.

Shawn one recommendation for you: run synthetic oil in the car, ester based if possible.

 

It should be pointed out that under acceleration, there is definitely a vacuum in the throttle body boot. In fact, that is how the OMP system works, there is vacuum on the OMP side and vacuum applied to the hose on the throttle body from the intake.

 

Ummmm guys
In that video I believe that was the Jet setting line not an omp line

I'm almost positive the yellow marker indicates the jettin line ... maybe that's what you guys have been talking about the whole time ... but I thought it was the OMP line ... which has a white mark ...
No?

 

^Can anyone confirm that?

 

I'm pretty sure you're using the right tube. If you look at the illustration (buried somewhere in this thread), the tube on the intake boot that is furthest to the right goes straight to the OMP. The middle one goes to the intake manifold.

-Lawrence