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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 09:45 AM
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You coulda just gone with those of us that knew what the problem was and we coulda saved you a whole bunch of work, but...
but, he's learning.
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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Why are you removing the oil pan?



Uh, yeah.


Sounds familiar


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You coulda just gone with those of us that knew what the problem was and we coulda saved you a whole bunch of work, but...
Pan needed to be pulled in order to get the front cover off.

I don't think there was any work that could have been saved. front cover needed to come off. oil pan needs to drop with the front cover. Believe me I did it the easiest less work involved way.

I went through the various diagnostic steps to see where the problem was coming from. Found the problem, now I'm working on a solution.
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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 09:52 AM
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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 09:55 AM
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Looks like that front cw is ok. The thrust washer wasn't as bad as I thought it was.
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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by shadycrew31
Pan needed to be pulled in order to get the front cover off.
Nope. Not at all.
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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 10:05 AM
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Well in order for me to do it properly and fit my own standards it did. Cleaning off the sealant on the exposed section of oil pan and front cover then re sealing wasn't in the books for me.

The whole thing comes off gets cleaned and prepped then new silicone is applied and seated. That's kinda how I do things.
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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 10:06 AM
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Its a bit **** I know and it requires allot more work that might not be needed. But sometimes that's just how I do things.
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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 02:12 PM
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I would reuse the front counter weight. But I would replace the thrust washer on the CW. Also new bearing and new collar.
Pulling the pan is a better way to alleviate the chance of any future oil leaks.
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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Easy_E1
Pulling the pan is a better way to alleviate the chance of any future oil leaks.
Or introduce new ones.
Every time you lower that pan, it gets more distorted and the threads get sloppier.
What ev. I'll just enjoy the hours I saved.
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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Or introduce new ones.
Every time you lower that pan, it gets more distorted and the threads get sloppier.
What ev. I'll just enjoy the hours I saved.
Hours!?
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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Easy_E1
Hours!?
Drain the oil, remove the cross-member, remove the turbo oil-drain, pry off the pan, clean it, bead it and then WAIT the 2 - 3 hour minimum before I can expose the sealant to oil.
Then put it all back together again.
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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 05:23 PM
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yeah.. i always hate how i have to stand there and watch silicone cure.
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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by laythor
yeah.. i always hate how i have to stand there and watch silicone cure.
lol

I do hate to have the car down any longer than it needs to be. While its curing, it's just sitting and I can't go anywhere.
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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 05:34 PM
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but you can be drinking beer.
I don't see the problem here...
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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 06:26 PM
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I gave Atkins another chance since mazdatrix are overpriced greedy cash hogs. I guess someones gotta keep Dave's time attack 8 full of parts and new tires. $33.XX for two thrust bearings at mazdatrix... Atkins had them for $17... Yea.
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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
lol

I do hate to have the car down any longer than it needs to be. While its curing, it's just sitting and I can't go anywhere.
your solution is obvious... strap a saddle on Erik and yell "g'ddy up"
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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 11:46 PM
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hahahah. nice.
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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by laythor
your solution is obvious... strap a saddle on Erik and yell "g'ddy up"
I think I'll just walk. I wouldn't want to break the ol' man.
Besides - I get nose-bleeds way up there.
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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 07:52 PM
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why wait--use this stuff and you dont have to wait at all. i have used it for years--also comes in a aerosol can
http://images.grainger.com/B309_43/i...3DPL7_AS01.JPG

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA300_.jpg

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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 08:20 PM
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I like the steel seal ad on the bottom of this page...

STEEL SEAL "Repair blown head gaskets with no disassembly!" "Lifetime Guarantee!"

Oh google ads you make me laugh.
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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 08:28 PM
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/\ there used to be a product called 'piston seal ' . Theory was you never had to replace your rings . Just pour the **** down the sparkplug hole and all would be good .
In my teen yrs a mate had a ford prefect 100E and we thought we would give this stuff a go . If we had done it today the terrorist squad would have been called out . We smoked out the whole neighbourhood .
Anyway , we neglected to realise that our engine was a side valve . Need I say more .
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 08:30 PM
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Can't wait to see you driving this. Mine is at 1100 miles now. Still no tune though....
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 09:24 PM
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I'm excited to drive her!
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 11:46 PM
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 03:01 AM
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Update time...

Doing the oil pan now. functional oil injectors are installed d585 coils are going on tomorrow. finishing up everything else tomorrow all fluids are going back in.

I have a leak near the oil filter hopefully it was from a pinched oil filter gasket and nothing else...
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