RIWWP

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If all the tech did was hook up to ODB2, then you can't trust the tech's word. My cat never threw a CEL or showed on ODB2, even though it was a nearly solid clog, 9mpg, couldn't hit 60mph in any gear.

bse50

what has this got to do with premix?

RIWWP

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With the possible exception of premix not playing fair with a cat...nothing. Just another thread hijack on a completely different topic.

ELI063

anyone add z max to there oil before??

blaaaas

Today i went to a local Rotary shop, they sold me this pre-mix.


http://www.maximausa.com/shopping/in...products_id=13

anyone has experience with this product? is safe?

thanks.

Jake33

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^never heard of it.

anyone know where i can buy premix around my area? i just dont want to pay shipping for idemitsu when i live in a massive city and can easily drive a short distance to pick some up.

quickimpact

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I have dump question about the premix and ethanol. If you are suppose avoid ethanol and every gas station from here to kingdom come has 10% ethanol then how are you suppose to make sure that your premix is not affected. Just curious. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Jakespeed3

Similar problem here, we have 98 and vpower 99 octane what have max. 5% ethanol, thinking to use idemitsu or protekr, is max. 5% ethanol problem to premix?

xun4gvn4everx

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I have owned two 8's. A 2004 and a 2005. I have never premixed and never had an engine issue. I think premixing is something that still needs logical evidance to prove that it is worth doing. As of yet; there is no statistical evidance that proves premixing is beneficial.

40w8

^My 07 6spd auto never used more than a half quart in 2000 miles, and at 29k miles seems to use about none.

I think it should use 1 quart in 1000 miles, and that's in agreement with Grungepup that 8 oz. per 12 gal seems to be the sweet spot.

The ethanol doesn't help anyone but corn farmers, but premix will mix with the gas, and as long as you don't get any water in it the ethanol is mostly a gas mileage waste.

New Yorker

I also still suspect premix doesn't do anything beneficial, though I wouldn't be surprised if research proved that it did.
Separately, do we know - for a fact - whether premix does any harm, however small?

40w8

Premix will save the apex seals if the metering oil is low or nonexistant as in my 07 auto.

I'm not even in a hurry to turn up the flow, but I'm pretty sure if I didn't premix, the engine would be done soon.

redline86

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If you want evidence of its benefits there here ya go: http://www.pettitracing.com/protek-r/

But then again what does pettit racing know

olddragger

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dont use that pre mix that is picture--its a castor based pre mix and if you have a cat it will mess it up. If you dont have a cat a castor based oil shouldnt be used as it will gum up many things.--it does smell nice.

JIN13

True never had issues with my yet....

40w8

So have any of you non-premixers been reading up on how to clean the omp lines?

Many guys here are noticing no use of mo which indicates no mo injected, and I'm one of them.

I don't have to know anything about premixing to understand that no oil on the apex seals will kill the engine soon.

Nines

Mazda added a 3rd oil nozzle in the 2009 & up models to lubricate/cool the neglected apex seal. Premixing does the same thing. Its good enough evidence for me.

Everest^

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Is marvel mystery oil good enough for premix?

SayNoToPistons

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^ If you did any research on MMO you would know that it shouldn't even be considered as a premix.

Nubo

It's what I used for the majority of the time I had my 2004 (thru Dec 2012).

In my estimation it makes a decent premix, keeping in mind that it's an addition to the oil already being injected. It mixes easily and quickly with gas, won't clog the fuel filter/screen like other premix oils can, has good solvent/cleaning action to help loosen carbon, has anti-scuff additives, and is readily available. In addition to keeping early carburetors clean, it was designed for top-cylinder lubrication -- essentially the same job you're looking to accomplish with premix in the rotary.

usnidc

some feel MMO is too much of a solvent. I have used it in my 12A carborated RX7 motor to decarbon it after not running it for 5 years... it worked great.

Not saying don't use it, just adding to the conversation.

SayNoToPistons

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MMO has no lubrication benefits. Keep away from that ****. MMO was developed years ago to clean carb jets and things that get gummed up and its good at dissolving that kind of thing, never meant to be a lubricant. Here are the ingredients of MMO, and they are not pre-mixing material. I can go into specifics about each chemical, but to sum it up, they are all harsh solvents. Light oil, naphtha and isopropyl alcohol.


Ingredient # 01
Ingredient Name BENZENE, 1,2-DICHLORO-
CAS Number 95501
Ingredient # 02
Ingredient Name MINERAL SPIRITS
CAS Number 8052413
Ingredient # 03
Ingredient Name NAPTHENIC HYDROCARBONS
CAS Number 64742525

1.3_LittersOfFurry

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^ A few people in the Rx-7 world swear by it, I've read somewhere on here a guy claiming to use it as premix with his omp disabled... crazy.

usnidc

I don't use it as a pre-mix in my RX-7, only used it to pour into the sparkplug holes and down the carb to break up carbon deposits from years of not running while spinning the motor by hand .... I agree it is too much of a solvent. It would probably be closer to a seafoam treatment than a premix.

9krpmrx8

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Honestly there is no proof that premix does anything to prolong engine life so it's likely we are all wasting our money anyway