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Old 05-28-2008, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by morkusyambo
Avanti, as you can see from reading the last several posts you're hardly ever going to get unbiased advice from an internet forum.
lol. Unbiased can depend a great deal on your viewpoint

You have to admit though, that the internet is a great place to hear people's opinions on things.
Old 05-28-2008, 09:18 AM
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Touche. Well "put".
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Sorry to hear about your engine man, that sucks. If it's really only $400 bucks to fix then you got lucky. How did that crack get so large without you noticing, didn't you have oil stains in your garage/driveway? Just seems weird that a detonation event would take weeks to spring a leak that large.
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“Like I said, come over to my house”

Why should I? I do my own work and don’t need amateurs to look over my shoulder. BTW $400 for a brand new front housing? Does it include labor and related overhauling parts? Oh yes, I now remember, you need people to show up at your place or take the car to a shop to do the work for you. I do my own work (including my own 11.96 sec quarter mile bridge port R100 motor built) and have others come to my house to work on their cars for free. Sorry but you are not welcome.

As far as WHP well I’m very happy with what I got and not interested in going any higher thus the reason why I purchased and installed the kit (by myself) from the beginning. Also, a quote from a 3rd gen 500+ whp single turbo owner with more experience than many of us can imagine after I sent him a copy of my last dyno run sheet.

“It's the reason I don't like people to look at raw dyno number. They change
from dyno to dyno, day to day, operator, weather, etc. The thing that should be
looked at is how flat that tq curve is! I like the hp never flattening out and
just continuing to climb.

I still like the 1/4 mile the best!”

Now back to anger management. Save the $400+ to fix your junk, donate the car and enroll yourself in a anger management course.

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Old 05-28-2008, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Bastage
Sorry to hear about your engine man, that sucks. If it's really only $400 bucks to fix then you got lucky. How did that crack get so large without you noticing, didn't you have oil stains in your garage/driveway? Just seems weird that a detonation event would take weeks to spring a leak that large.
I'll PM you, it's not related to this thread.
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Here's a funny fact; I spoke with Cam the other day and a little bit of it was about the S/C vs. Turbo comparison and neither of us seemed to be so emotionally involved in it. Why do you suppose that was when each of us is involved in offering our own F/I kits?
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I don't think it's about SC vs Turbo as much as it is Pettit haters vs Pettit owners.
Old 05-28-2008, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Here's a funny fact; I spoke with Cam the other day and a little bit of it was about the S/C vs. Turbo comparison and neither of us seemed to be so emotionally involved in it. Why do you suppose that was when each of us is involved in offering our own F/I kits?
Emotional?

I’m currently enjoying a cuban sandwich and a pepsi one while laughing my butt off.

Anyway, after work today a nice ride back home on my Hayabusa (I’ll try to hit 175 mph again) and enjoy a nice Florida afternoon/evening without worrying about the cost to fix my RX8.
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Old 05-28-2008, 10:25 AM
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With all the alleged hatin' goin' on around here it's starting to sound like a Rap song. The point to my mentioning the phone call with Cam was to point out that if anybody has a motivation to be critical of one another's stuff it would be the guys whose livelihoods depend on sales of their product. Cam is confident in Pettit's approach as I am of BHR's.

The point is that each system, even when properly tuned, has it's own inherent and/or perceived strengths and weaknesses but the key is that if the OWNERS are happy where does a viable argument arise?

I personally find it disappointing that 4 years ago people laughed at the RX-8 and said things like nitrous, turbos, superchargers, and 300 RWHP were never to be achieved. Now that we are doing this on a fairly regular basis we are going to resume the infighting?

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Old 05-28-2008, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by marsredr100
Emotional?

I’m currently enjoying a cuban sandwich and a pepsi one while laughing my butt off.

Anyway, after work today a nice ride back home on my Hayabusa (I’ll try to hit 175 mph again) and enjoy a nice Florida afternoon/evening without worrying about the cost to fix my RX8.
Dude... 175 on I-4...

can I have your R100 when you are dead?

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Originally Posted by marsredr100
don’t need amateurs to look over my shoulder

you need people to show up at your place

you are not welcome.

to fix your junk, donate the car

Emotional?

enroll yourself in a anger management course.
You keep talking about others needing anger management, but from what I can see, the only one who needs that advice is yourself. Everyone else is talking calmly without having to resort to personal insults.
Old 05-28-2008, 10:41 AM
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There will always be those that believe that theirs is better than yours and your wrong no matter what. Their arguments twist words and ideas into what they wish and unless you are as skilled, will never seem to win. After several of those arguments I decided that it's better just to enjoy my choice. When others ask, I now always say my choice is........

There are good and bad with both. I knew pretty much what I was getting into when I went with Pettit and have never been disappointed in my choice of FI. Are there problems? Hell yes there are. My friends with Turbos have problems also, it's just the nature of the beast.

Marsred100, some of us do not have your technical knowledge and have to rely on others to advise, support and in a lot of cases do the actual work. That does not make us any less of an enthusiast. I asked for help from one gentleman that most think is anti S/C. I found out that MM is not anti s/c and his help has been invaluable. Ray (CHR) was at first perceived to by some to be anti Pettit and I think that has since been proven wrong. Ray's help has also been invaluable and in no way amateurish.
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Originally Posted by Bastage
Dude... 175 on I-4...

can I have your R100 when you are dead?

Not I-4 but parts of the Tampa Crosstown Expressway (nice smooth road surface and no chance for cops to hide). Are you kidding me? The R100 is also going to be my metal coffin.
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I like cake!!
Oh by the way that torque curve was letting me shift at 6.8k on the track!
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Originally Posted by Phil's 8
There will always be those that believe that theirs is better than yours and your wrong no matter what. Their arguments twist words and ideas into what they wish and unless you are as skilled, will never seem to win. After several of those arguments I decided that it's better just to enjoy my choice. When others ask, I now always say my choice is........

There are good and bad with both. I knew pretty much what I was getting into when I went with Pettit and have never been disappointed in my choice of FI. Are there problems? Hell yes there are. My friends with Turbos have problems also, it's just the nature of the beast.

Marsred100, some of us do not have your technical knowledge and have to rely on others to advise, support and in a lot of cases do the actual work. That does not make us any less of an enthusiast. I asked for help from one gentleman that most think is anti S/C. I found out that MM is not anti s/c and his help has been invaluable. Ray (CHR) was at first perceived to by some to be anti Pettit and I think that has since been proven wrong. Ray's help has also been invaluable and in no way amateurish.
Phil don’t get wrapped around the axel. My comments were not directed at anyone but the intended individual and I'm having fun while at it.

Let’s try this again. I don’t care if you like superchargers, turbos, normally aspirated or are a NOS junkie for as long as you enjoy your rotary engine car. Believe me, my next door neighbor owns a pristine 3rd gen with a bad motor and I’m trying to convince him to sell me his car for the last two years. That way I can own a NA, SC and Turbo car.

However, I also enjoy bugging the crap out of non SC RX8 owners that have nothing to offer but bad feedback about the product. To the contrary there are other non SC RX8 owners like Ray that try to point out not only the weak points to the kit but to offer solution/upgrades for it. Yes, I know, every system has its strength and weakness but talking about it and offering no solutions does not help at all.

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Old 05-28-2008, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by olddragger
I like cake!!
Oh by the way that torque curve was letting me shift at 6.8k on the track!
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Cake sucks!
I like pie!

Sorry..............I just felt like contributing a completely worthless post today!
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Cheesecake is oh so yummy
but then again, so is Pecan pie.

What's a guy to do???
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I Like Cherry PIE!!!!lololol

Just as an FYI on my Last tuning Session about a 2 months ago we got more agressive I hit 325whp.

The next time I do a session will be after I add the the BHR ignition upgrade and radiator and switch from watter wetter to the chill charge. With Ray's help (BHR) maybe even my injectors upgraded.

Please don't drill me on technical questions because I won't know.

If you have technical questions you can ask the same people I do that have been very helpful.

Cam,Moon,Ray(Charles R. Hill),Jeff(MM),Juan(Marsredr100),and Myql
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wow! You said no technical details, but how much psi, and did you get the chart?
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What was the maximum torque??
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enough to get me around a modified 350Z and a bunch of others, and the Speed source rx8 could not lose me AND enough to get me back to the paddock for that yummy cake and diet coke.
Check out the vid on the SE thread--Roebling road event ---i think it is page 14. A great guy by the handle of On Rails posted it. The 1st one he posted and a couple of minutes into the vid to will see a red rx8 in front of him(my 1st time on the track with the s.c. kit). On that front straight i was in 6th gear. i was driving VERY conservatively.
I like cangdy too--its dandy.
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Have any decisions been made if the kit will be discontinued? Or will another compressor be used?

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What was the maximum torque??
I'm more interested in the charge temps.
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^^ Me too....The efficiency at that flow rate should make it a bit of a hair drier

( no slam intended to anyone...just my observation )
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^^ Me too....The efficiency at that flow rate should make it a bit of a hair drier

( no slam intended to anyone...just my observation )
Munche was one if not the first SC with the methanol kit. So I assume that the charge temperatures were reduced by the injection of water/methanol into the intake. He also makes his own mix and as far as I know he does not have a post blower IAT sensor to ascertain the temperatures under boost.


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