PoLaK

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Well your assuming their not packaging any software with it and a flasher device that lets you load several different maps; ie performance, mileage (no aggressive driving), vallet (keeps rpm below 4000), anti-theft (car won't start) etc.

Or do you know for sure?

rotarygod

I'm assuming nothing.

punishr

Not every 2004. I have never reflashed my 8 at all. My 8 has allways felt pretty good compared to others I have driven that have been reflashed. I have flooded only once and have had 1 coil pack issue that was fixed with new coil packs and new plugs under warranty.

therm8

Ahah!! I'm back in the game.

olddragger

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I wonder if the flash takes any mods into consideration--or is it based on the stock rx8 presentation?--- I want this!
olddragger

zoom44

THEY HAVE PREVIOUSLY STATED IN AN INTERVIEW DONE BY ME AND PRINTED IN RXTuner THAT they have full control to change all the fuel timing redline fans etc etc etc. That bit on the website says they have them driving in people's cars. They have previously made flash programs for SC and TC cars so have those ready. We talked about that after 7stock last year. Damon said they had a sc map running at 200%VE or somesuch. More Details coming soon.

zoom44

dude you never even got M done? go get a damn flash. Did you have the Recall work done for the 3305g thermal damage recall?

rotarygod

RB does have and has had for a couple of years now, full ecu retuning ability. This does not mean that if and when they release a flash for actualy sale, that it will be one that everyone is happy with, meets everyones overblown expectations, or will come complete with total user reflash controls. It won't. Don't expect to get incredible gas mileage, and 50 more hp. You won't. It will be like any other conservative upgrade. At a guess, it will probably be somewhere around 10-15 more hp, maybe some revised rev limits, intake function changes, and potentially little to no change to drivability maps or fuel economy for emissions reasons. This is a realistic scenario. The reflash will be a service offered for a nominal fee. When I say service, I mean it just as with porting an engine, lapping side housings, etc. The ecu will have to be in their posession. That means removing it and mailing it out to be flashed. They do have the ability to tune for forced induction. Don't think they are going to develop some magical FI map for people the purchase for use with their turbo kits. They aren't. There are way too many parameters to affect that. On a naturally aspirated car, 1 flash works for all assuming of course your engine is not ported. It's always been that way and always will be. You do not need a different flash for different locations. Only this forum could think up such things.

olddragger

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I will send mine in--no problem-- cant help but wonder when they will start accepting. I wonder if it will be top end focused or I hope under the curve type of tune. Hope under the curve. i think I will call them on Monday.
OD

r0tor

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I'd wait to see Cobb's flashing system before jumping on the RB flash

guitarjunkie28

i agree for the stock ecu. but when guys do ems stuff, it makes a difference when they don't have the capability to do accurate temp correction.

ex: car is tuned in 110* weather where i live, then the guy moves to alaska and drives in sub-zero temps. (yes, unlikely, but it's an exaggerated point) you could always do the pv=nrt equation for correction, but who's to say this exact engine will react exactly how it should on paper?

Japan8

If Cobb does actually release a flash for the RX-8... it'll more than likely be like their others...

AccessPort ECU Programmer tool
http://cobbtuning.com/legacy/accessport.html

AccessPort Street Tuner software
http://cobbtuning.com/legacy/ap-streettuner.html

Best of both worlds. Pre-programmed flashes and downloadable flashes (from Cobb's site) via CAN/OBDII port tool AND ECU tuning software.

IF this really does come out for the RX-8... why bother with RB... no ability to tune, no upgrades (as far as we know) and worst is you have to send them your ECU. Sucks in book.

Richard Paul

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Keep complaining about the size of this thread.
It's about to expand ^2 by itself, why all the off topic, there are already flash threads.

Razz1

There is no referance to tunning an RX 8, Cobb is all hype.

It's like saying:

"If Mazda only released the software tuning tools for 8..."

Dream on boys........

kristopher_d

Hey now, you old fart. I'm 26 and have been following quietly and patiently all along (which does take considerable self restraint, but that's a personality issue, not age). When I saw mention of the Intercepter my heart sank for a moment (I don't really want to f*** around with tuning). I'd much rather spend my time/money on improving the nut behind the wheel than tweaking injectors. When I heard there were problems with the Interceptor I had mixed fealings (Damn, another delay vs Whoo hoo, no bloated price tag on the Interceptor). All these dealays just mean I have more time to get the suspension further ahead of the horse power before I make it too easy get myself into even more trouble.

BTW, I'll be making an order for the short-shifter with my next pay-cheque. I just took the time to check out the site, and damn that all looks pretty on there.

In short, a note of support and nail-biting patience from the younger crowd.

zoom44

the reference is to Trey from Cobb posting in the Utah thread in Mountain forum

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...14#post1394814

therm8

Plenty of people have posted a "hey guys look at what we're planning" thread here before. Very few follow through, and those who do usually stick around and provide updates, and threads where we can go off topic and stuff...

zoom44

hehe you're post 3600

guitarjunkie28

hey, i'm the only one that gets to call that old fart an old fart

i think richard should release it with or without an ems option. i got the interceptor staging fine on his car, but didn't get to fully tune it. if someone got the a/f when it's ready i could do a map for it. that'd open up the option for guys that already have and like the interceptor and just wanted to add the supercharger.

Japan8

You don't see RB or Borla around here.... anymore. They were around briefly when the cat-backs where first coming out and then they kinda faded away. That's ok. My point is just that there are examples of products where the maker/vendor came on for a few posts and then disappeared, but we still got a fine product.

MadDog

So you set it up like I have mine? "Sequential" staging instead of "Seq &Aux"? That works great for me, (but I do have 1250cc's of injection per rotor now ) Tell us more about your experiences!

Richard Paul

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You can find my Intercepter X in the "for sale" forum.
It's now in the trunk, ready for a new home with someone who loves it.

SC-ed

... or you can dump the RP's ECM, throw a smaller pulley and tune it with Int-X.
But don't call RP if something goes wrong.

guitarjunkie28

yup, that did the trick.

guitarjunkie28

do you think anyone in their right mind would blame the mfr. if they tuned it themselves?