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07-20-2006, 08:48 AM
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We don't like to give dates for sale of something as complex as this but we want to be to market in OCT.
What would be really really nice for all of us is if you ocassionally edited the first post of this thread with your current progress, etc. Otherwise it's just about impossible to have any clue what is going on.
07-20-2006, 09:04 AM
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Nobody else doing FI kits for the 8 gave any information either 
Except maybe a dyno chart.
Except maybe a dyno chart.
Originally Posted by Umbra
October of which year? Just curious as I have not seen any dyno data yet or heard about any long term durability testing, unless I just missed it somewhere in this thread.
What would be really really nice for all of us is if you ocassionally edited the first post of this thread with your current progress, etc. Otherwise it's just about impossible to have any clue what is going on.
What would be really really nice for all of us is if you ocassionally edited the first post of this thread with your current progress, etc. Otherwise it's just about impossible to have any clue what is going on.
07-20-2006, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Umbra
What would be really really nice for all of us is if you ocassionally edited the first post of this thread with your current progress, etc. Otherwise it's just about impossible to have any clue what is going on.
And if you want video of a S/C RX-8 on the dyno, have a look at my thread :D Cheeky Hymee.
Cheers,
Hymee.
07-20-2006, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Umbra
October of which year? Just curious as I have not seen any dyno data yet or heard about any long term durability testing, unless I just missed it somewhere in this thread.
What would be really really nice for all of us is if you ocassionally edited the first post of this thread with your current progress, etc. Otherwise it's just about impossible to have any clue what is going on.
What would be really really nice for all of us is if you ocassionally edited the first post of this thread with your current progress, etc. Otherwise it's just about impossible to have any clue what is going on.
I think that I'm pretty open about wahat we are doing. More so than any other company. I get lots of **** from my partner about talking to much. He should get priority shouldn't he?
The power curve is still being worked on and if I told you every day what it was doing all I'd get was a ration about it wasn't good enough. You will tell me of your buddys turbo gets twice that. All I'd be doing is defending myself on the forum, not working.
How long of durability testing do you want? Because we can delay the sale for a couple of years for some real long term tests. Right now we are driving our test car into the ground. I even sat in traffic with it the other day for over four hours. It was over 100 degrees outside.
As soon as the next ECU is installed I'm taking it on an extended trip up north and points east. I plan to put about 3500 mi on it added to the 6000 it has now. We ran the compressor on the test bench for days. We can't spend more time trying for a 100,000 mi test.
There is a new compressor being built right now that has some upgrades in it and we will run it on the test rig for a couple of days then put it in the car. However we are continuing with the productionizing of the other parts concurrently.
We have 40 kits planed for the first run and every part we are now making is in that number or more.
As you can imagine this is no small investment of funds. Not to bitch about it, that's what buisness is about, I just want you to see a little of our side. Don't forget this is not a case of buying someone elses blower and building a kit, that's the easy part.
Thank you for your continued reading of our thread though.
07-20-2006, 04:54 PM
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Richard, you're awesome! I might have to take you out for lunch and some cold beers so I can get another tour of the shop and take a peak at the new unit.
07-24-2006, 09:01 AM
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I think that I'm pretty open about wahat we are doing. More so than any other company. I get lots of **** from my partner about talking to much. He should get priority shouldn't he?
The power curve is still being worked on and if I told you every day what it was doing all I'd get was a ration about it wasn't good enough. You will tell me of your buddys turbo gets twice that. All I'd be doing is defending myself on the forum, not working.
The power curve is still being worked on and if I told you every day what it was doing all I'd get was a ration about it wasn't good enough. You will tell me of your buddys turbo gets twice that. All I'd be doing is defending myself on the forum, not working.
How long of durability testing do you want? Because we can delay the sale for a couple of years for some real long term tests. Right now we are driving our test car into the ground. I even sat in traffic with it the other day for over four hours. It was over 100 degrees outside.
As soon as the next ECU is installed I'm taking it on an extended trip up north and points east. I plan to put about 3500 mi on it added to the 6000 it has now. We ran the compressor on the test bench for days. We can't spend more time trying for a 100,000 mi test.
As soon as the next ECU is installed I'm taking it on an extended trip up north and points east. I plan to put about 3500 mi on it added to the 6000 it has now. We ran the compressor on the test bench for days. We can't spend more time trying for a 100,000 mi test.
As you can imagine this is no small investment of funds. Not to bitch about it, that's what buisness is about, I just want you to see a little of our side. Don't forget this is not a case of buying someone elses blower and building a kit, that's the easy part...
07-24-2006, 09:03 AM
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A new flash would be nice but then everyone under the sun would whine and cry like babies because they'd have to send their ecu out to get flashed. Then they'd complain that they'd have to do it again after they were dumb enough to take their car in to have a dealership work on it because they were a fifth of a quart low on oil and a CEL came on and suddenly a new flash undid the supercharger flash. Great idea but too many people won't be able to accept it as it requires a small amount of financial effort to mail off the ecu and a couple fo days downtime. I may sound like I'm being harsh but the truth hurts. I see how people respond to things they ask for here.
07-24-2006, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
A new flash would be nice but then everyone under the sun would whine and cry like babies because they'd have to send their ecu out to get flashed. Then they'd complain that they'd have to do it again after they were dumb enough to take their car in to have a dealership work on it because they were a fifth of a quart low on oil and a CEL came on and suddenly a new flash undid the supercharger flash. Great idea but too many people won't be able to accept it as it requires a small amount of financial effort to mail off the ecu and a couple fo days downtime. I may sound like I'm being harsh but the truth hurts. I see how people respond to things they ask for here.
And if later on Richard had an upgraded flash, than I'd again send out the ECU for that. It's the same as going back and leaving the car at a shop to get it re-tuned on the dyno, imo.
07-24-2006, 10:21 AM
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i agree a flash would be perfect. in fact when i buy richards blower if it doesnt come with a flash for engine management ill find someone somewhere to make me a custom map to flash to my car and sell whtever richard provides
07-24-2006, 11:22 AM
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Well RG be damned, if I can offer this with my kit and save the buyer $1000 plus or minus I don't think a couple of days downtime will stop many customers.
We all know that the car already has all the hardware needed to do the job. Adding a bunch of electronics and wires isn't the ideal answer.
That's another thing, think about not having to mount and wire an aftermarket computer along with the installation of the blower. Besides forcing the customer into having to take his time isn't a bad thing either. What else can he do but do it right when can't drive off yet??
Overnight it to us and we overnight it back the same day. That's three days downtime for a huge savings in time and money. I've sold myself.
Anyway I'll report on the EMU in about a week or two, maybe more, out of our control. (The O2 harness is on backorder. I hope not 4-8 weeks like they quoted.)
BTW, none of the above was intended to hint that we are working on this with RB, we are not. We are just watching everybody. Our goal is to give the best value to the end user, we are not going to overlook anyones product.
We all know that the car already has all the hardware needed to do the job. Adding a bunch of electronics and wires isn't the ideal answer.
That's another thing, think about not having to mount and wire an aftermarket computer along with the installation of the blower. Besides forcing the customer into having to take his time isn't a bad thing either. What else can he do but do it right when can't drive off yet??
Overnight it to us and we overnight it back the same day. That's three days downtime for a huge savings in time and money. I've sold myself.
Anyway I'll report on the EMU in about a week or two, maybe more, out of our control. (The O2 harness is on backorder. I hope not 4-8 weeks like they quoted.)
BTW, none of the above was intended to hint that we are working on this with RB, we are not. We are just watching everybody. Our goal is to give the best value to the end user, we are not going to overlook anyones product.
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07-24-2006, 11:43 AM
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Umbra, I'll not put your name on one of the first units.
Just bide your time and watch others.
You can get updated by continuing to read the latest pages, why would you want the first one modified?
The fact that you are an engineer makes me confident that you will want one of these units way before you buy anyone elses.
Funny thing, with my past superchargers the biggest group of buyers have been airline pilots and dentists. Makes sense, right?
Just bide your time and watch others.
You can get updated by continuing to read the latest pages, why would you want the first one modified?
The fact that you are an engineer makes me confident that you will want one of these units way before you buy anyone elses.
Funny thing, with my past superchargers the biggest group of buyers have been airline pilots and dentists. Makes sense, right?