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Old 07-24-2006, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
Well RG be damned, if I can offer this with my kit and save the buyer $1000 plus or minus I don't think a couple of days downtime will stop many customers.

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Not me, for sure. Being overseas those 1000 are 1000 + $$$ for shipping it's weight + custom taxes ( about 20% of product + shipping.) Not less than 1400$.

Sending an ECU there to "repair" and getting it back doesn't involve any tax here if you do it correctly, only the shipping. So it can easily be a lot less.
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I'd prefer not to have to remove the ECU and send it someplace. But I guess that is one option. Putting a new tune-up in just like Mazda does it would be nicer, I reckon.

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of course it would be of course it would be nice to have that capability packaged in with a piece of software that could monitor the various systems etc just like mazda would with their service tool. you know a can capable program that would read and clear codes etc etc. i wonder who would have a product like that that could flash too......
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I'd prefer not to have to remove the ECU and send it someplace. But I guess that is one option. Putting a new tune-up in just like Mazda does it would be nicer, I reckon.

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I already told you, it doesn't matter for me, because I'm a beautifull woman with hair down to my little waist and large breasts. Therefore the world lets me get away with anything.
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I already told you, it doesn't matter for me, because I'm a beautifull woman with hair down to my little waist and large breasts. Therefore the world lets me get away with anything.
You must be blond. "Beautiful" has one L....
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What the hell do you know about beautiful??
Yes, of course I'm blond.
And you get paid to be supportive.
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did Hymlee just say "I reckon"---Hot dang-------- i knew that boy had some south in him!
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Being the Good ol' Montana farm boy that I am, I of course have another car, two other trucks and five motorcycles I can drive while I am waiting for my RX-8 ECU to get back to me.

The Cobb thing sounds like the ticket to me ifn' they can make it work.

My Dealership thinks the Mod's I do to my car are cool and they work around them with no problems at all, I am afraid of it getting re-flashed by them though, so having the tool to do the flash myself would be best, or the software load so I could have the dealer flash it for me with the WDS. Because although you have the service manager put it on the ticket, do not re-flash, envarably sooner or later it will happen.

I looked into buying the WDS myself, but I was quoted 6k for it, so I passed on that.
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did Hymlee just say "I reckon"---Hot dang-------- i knew that boy had some south in him!
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South! you haven't seen south till you've gone below the belt and beyond the international timeline. That's south.
The whirlpools turn backwards!!!!!
It's tomorrow there!!!
And they call it "OZ" (I always wondered if that had anything to do with the wizard.)
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Getting a flash is no problem, just contact me I know a few college kids that are bringing that fad back!

You can get flashed all you want.
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
Well RG be damned, if I can offer this with my kit and save the buyer $1000 plus or minus I don't think a couple of days downtime will stop many customers.
I personally think a flash would be optimal. My point was that we have too many people that just can't be made happy regardless of how easy you make things for them. I say provide a flash if you can and just tell the cry babies to go screw themselves if they don't want to put a small amount of effort into it.
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Have you tried looking into possible making your own SAE J2534 pass through device or sourcing one from someone like drewtech where it would include a CAN/OBD2 diagnostic program and the ability to reflash the ECU. Harrison tech already supports it. http://www.obdscan.net/canscan_new.htm
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Oh wow, they already have the RX-8 listed on their site.
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I would send my ECU with no problems.
It'll take some time for me to get the kit installed anyway, so why not have RP take care of the ECU while I work on the blower? ...Just makes sence, plus if it chops off a $1000 of the bill... It is a good deal the way I see it.
Go RP!!!
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yes harrison has supposedly supported that for some time. but it does not allow you to flash custom maps to the PCM. it allows you to use mazda's software available at www.mazdatechinfo.com which only allows you to update your pcm with new mazda flashes. there are otehr threads- including one active just the past couple of weeks- discussing this. but what is listed on the page linked is the diagnostic software for checking cels etc not teh flashing ability which is "future product" and price TBD
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the only thing needed to flash on any j2534 device is additional programming voltage as a signal to move into programming mode. it's 18v on pin 13.
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some cars dont require the voltage at all. and of course you need a program to do the work.
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We all ready know that the boost profile of the blower is relatively linear at 1psi per 1K rpm due to internal compression/ stages of the AFSC.

RP can/would you be willing to tell us what the CFM VS ENGINE RPM profile is going to be with the new design.
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Originally Posted by zoom44
some cars dont require the voltage at all. and of course you need a program to do the work.
mazda is required under federal law to give you the program and the flashes for a nominal fee. that's why all the oemtechinfo.com sites exist.

Now as far as putting your own code into the flash.. that's a whole diffrent ballgame.

As far as the voltage, some car's don't need voltage but all CAN cars do as they use the 12v as signaling, so you need a 18-20 V spike to move it to programming mode and then you have to send the right commands to flash.
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i jnow that. ive been on this path since 2004 and have read all of the law and various sites about j2534and have gotten a subscription etc etc. what i mean is you cant use the mazda program that is available to flash custom maps. it doesnt work that way. you need a program that asks "which file should i write to the pcm?" and then you select the one you want. the mazda software doesnt do that it just looks in to see what your car has and if there is a newer version in its database it says "there is a newer flash available. flash now?" without allowing you to choose which file.


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