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Old Jan 30, 2013 | 08:21 PM
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Just to reiterate to get a dwell number for access port take the time in ms and multiply by 256. I checked it with a scope today. Don't use the MM multiply the whole table method unless you like frying coils.
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Old Jan 30, 2013 | 09:24 PM
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It didn't fry coils, it only failed to provide proper dwell for a large part of the map
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Old May 15, 2013 | 03:28 AM
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I am purchaseing BHR coils. My supercharged car was tuned on factory coils without any increase in dwell settings.

I assume I should be able to do a direct swap and run the car without any issues?

I will look at getting a new tune done in the near future.
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Old May 15, 2013 | 09:18 PM
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absolutely not
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Old May 15, 2013 | 09:44 PM
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Not a good choice...coils need about 5ms if dwelll...much more than stock. You might get away with it NA...but boosted is a BAD idea
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Old May 15, 2013 | 09:58 PM
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low compression NA maybe ....
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Old May 15, 2013 | 09:58 PM
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Ok, thanks for the heads up I will wait to install when the tuner is ready. I should be able to install and drive it gently to the tuner?
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Old May 15, 2013 | 09:59 PM
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Lol....
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Old May 15, 2013 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by skc
Ok, thanks for the heads up I will wait to install when the tuner is ready. I should be able to install and drive it gently to the tuner?

Like you have an egg between your foot and the gas pedal maybe
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Old May 15, 2013 | 10:11 PM
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So my instructions to the tuner is to increase the dwell times to 5ms. Can the tuner use the dwell table posted on page 9 by shelldude or do I have to specify specific targets for the various rev ranges?
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Old May 15, 2013 | 10:15 PM
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There was a map that Team did that seems to work well.......it makes it correct across the whole range unlike some of the other ones out there...
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Old May 15, 2013 | 10:20 PM
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low compression NA maybe ....
Majority of BHR are NA users and they all seem to report good results. So are you saying just slapping on the BHR kit is not enough for a NA car?
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Old May 15, 2013 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dannobre
There was a map that Team did that seems to work well.......it makes it correct across the whole range unlike some of the other ones out there...
Sounds good enough for me unless the tuner has other ideas.
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Old May 15, 2013 | 10:35 PM
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Tuners don't always have "better" ideas

Be procactive
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Old May 15, 2013 | 10:42 PM
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Thanks for your help. Is there information somewhere on the dwell settings on the standard BHR kit. I have emailed Charles for this information. I assume the tuners may need the base settings?
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Old May 15, 2013 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by skc
Thanks for your help. Is there information somewhere on the dwell settings on the standard BHR kit. I have emailed Charles for this information. I assume the tuners may need the base settings?
go back a few pages in this thread........
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Old May 16, 2013 | 01:32 AM
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it would be more accurate to say that most of them know nothing more than what they were told

direct your tuner to post 108 in this thread and to download the attached spreadsheet and use it per that post

watch this thread, in particular the RH area of the scope to view output relative to the different dwell settings as he changes them. From 5000 up the OE dwell setting is below 3.0 mS. What you don't have is the OE coil output relative to dwell for comparison. If you did then you'd understand why I'm recommending not to do it that way.

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Old May 16, 2013 | 01:39 AM
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Thanks Team, I found that post downloaded the spreadsheet and sent it off to the tuners.

I assume they will be able to access the required table using the HKS Fcon software and adjust accordingly.
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Old Jul 17, 2014 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ShellDude
For those that still don't get it... I'll spell it out for you.

D585 Dwell (LS2 Truck) coils w/ heatsinks in ATR (thanks to Oltman):

Code:
	1000	2000	3000	4000	5000	6000	7000	8000	9000
6.50	5398	4116	3159	2821	2304	1792	1421	1152	896
7.75	3939	3229	2579	2312	2049	1792	1421	1152	896
9	2488	2342	1999	1802	1613	1613	1421	1152	896
10.25	1923	1850	1678	1567	1421	1421	1245	1152	896
11.5	1462	1462	1445	1383	1281	1281	1068	982	896
12.75	1211	1211	1211	1198	1141	1141	973	934	895
14	1065	1065	1065	1065	1053	1053	896	858	820
15.25	981	981	981	981	975	975	845	795	744.96
16.5	896	896	896	896	891	891	748	709	669
Sorry for bringing this dwell discussion up again, but Iam still confused
I have LS2 D514a coils, until now I have used a overall multiplier of 1.666 to get from 3ms dwell to 5ms dwell.
Should I be worried about the current draw when using overall 1.666 mulitplier with these coils?
Is this table above for D585 okey to use with LS2 D514a coils or should I just keep my table as it is.

Last edited by al3k87; Jul 17, 2014 at 07:33 AM. Reason: corrected multiplier value
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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 12:24 AM
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Bump...again

Hi all,

Has anyone had success in adjusting the dwell setting for D514 coils in ME? Im in the same situation as al3k87, and wondering the best way to go about doing it

Any help appreciated!
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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 12:01 PM
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Hi all,

Has anyone had success in adjusting the dwell setting for D514 coils in ME? Im in the same situation as al3k87, and wondering the best way to go about doing it

Any help appreciated!
If you use the table for the 585 coils, you will smell the 514 coils frying.....
The 514 coils seem to work with the stock dwell.
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 05:40 PM
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Thanks for the reply Rote8. They do seem to work okay with stock dwell settings, but Im really wanting to optimise their performance if I can. Iv asked RaceRoots what they recommend but haven't heard anything back.

I have no idea what burning coils smell like - but I can imagine I wont like it! Does anyone have the base dwell figure for the D514 coils?
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Old Sep 26, 2016 | 04:15 AM
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Hi all,

I'm interested in buying the SakeBomb kit with the IGN1A/AEM coils.

As I far as I understood, they have a base dwell of 3ms. In this thread it says that stock are 3ms too and further it says they are 3,5ms. i didn't find the info elsewhere.

So my question is simple, do I have to adjust my dwell table if I go from OEM coils to those coils?

Excuse me if my english is not perfect, I'm French
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Old Sep 26, 2016 | 04:57 AM
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Oh lala! Don't think anyone here has experimented with those so your best bet is to ask the supplier .
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Old Sep 26, 2016 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
Oh lala! Don't think anyone here has experimented with those so your best bet is to ask the supplier .
I thought TeamRx8 was part of their team.
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