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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 09:14 AM
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so i know this kind of goes away from the intended subject of this thread, but since S2 owners have no way of tuning their dwell settings, and since most of us have upgraded to a more reliable ignition, would the BAS be an alternative to ensure that the coils get enough charge?
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by paimon.soror
so i know this kind of goes away from the intended subject of this thread, but since S2 owners have no way of tuning their dwell settings, and since most of us have upgraded to a more reliable ignition, would the BAS be an alternative to ensure that the coils get enough charge?
If you are NA..you will be OK with the stock dwell settings....

if you are FI...you will have another system to run your ignition and fuel anyway..that will allow you to alter the dwell ( like the Adaptronic unit)
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 03:35 PM
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The best way? This is classic.

You have an OE dwell table driving a different coil at at under-dwell settings in the high rpm range and are adding voltage with a boost-a-spark. Simply put, you are guessing out your butt with a twist-a-**** and have no clue what the system is actually doing.

when you could have a set of D585 coils and have your programmer copy & paste known dwell settings into the AP map

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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
The best way? This is classic.

You have an OE dwell table driving a different coil at at under-dwell settings in the high rpm range and are adding voltage with a boost-a-spark. Simply put, you are guessing out your butt with a twist-a-**** and have no clue what the system is actually doing.

when you could have a set of D585 coils and have your programmer copy & paste known dwell settings into the AP map

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Try re-reading post 228 and 229. Or perhaps you're selling AccessPorts for the S2?
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by HiFlite999
Try re-reading post 228 and 229. Or perhaps you're selling AccessPorts for the S2?
He was talking about Denny's Boost a Spark setup
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 07:07 PM
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the same thing applies that you'd still be guessing and under some conditions over-driving the coils would be as real a possibility as under-driving them

and post 229 was not there when I started typing my reply


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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 07:20 PM
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^ so given the problem (improve S2 ignition performance) what's your solution?
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 07:27 PM
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an interesting question would be 'what do the coil dwell tables look like on an s2 and are they any different than the s1'
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 07:29 PM
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They are the same coils...so likely the same table as the S1
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 07:30 PM
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figured as much, didn't want to speculate though
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by HiFlite999
^ so given the problem (improve S2 ignition performance) what's your solution?

Since you asked, my solution is to take it out of this thread and go discuss in in the proper forum area.


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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
Since you asked, my solution is to take it out of this thread and go discuss in in the proper forum area.


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In other words, you don't have one.
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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 05:17 PM
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yall dont pay any attention to me or what I do--I am just a crazy old man.
but my car is running good.
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 04:07 PM
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The GM D585 coil Dwell table posted by Oltman a while back significantly improves hot starting performance ...... FACT !

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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
The BHR coil Dwell table posted by Oltman a while back significantly improves hot starting performance ...... FACT !
Mine name is WCS and I approve this message
lol
Seriously .. the dwell settings made a big improvement on hot starts

Thanks Oltmann for posting them and thanks Brettus for kicking me in the *** to use them ..
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 04:15 PM
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Mine name is WCS and I approve this message
lol
Seriously .. the dwell settings made a big improvement on hot starts

Thanks Oltmann for posting them and thanks Brettus for kicking me in the *** to use them ..
This message gets the Brettspeed
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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 10:29 AM
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There is no such thing as a "BHR coil". They are GM coils. There is a BHR ignition coil kit that uses these GM coils. As noted the original map used by MM and sanctioned by BHR at the time was off by several magnitudes. The map by Oltmann still does not use the full capability of the GM coils.
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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 07:04 PM
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I am giving it a shot to
With less then 15 split omg
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 02:09 PM
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Just wanted to report, the new dwell settings seem awesome everything feels smoother, even shifting. odd

maybe its just a placebo effect, and as far as starting I had a really low battery this morning and it was cranking so slow but it still fired up!

Hands down way better then what MM provided.
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 02:23 PM
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What split did you go with?

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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 03:44 PM
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For those that still don't get it... I'll spell it out for you.

D585 Dwell (LS2 Truck) coils w/ heatsinks in ATR (thanks to Oltman):

Code:
	1000	2000	3000	4000	5000	6000	7000	8000	9000
6.50	5398	4116	3159	2821	2304	1792	1421	1152	896
7.75	3939	3229	2579	2312	2049	1792	1421	1152	896
9	2488	2342	1999	1802	1613	1613	1421	1152	896
10.25	1923	1850	1678	1567	1421	1421	1245	1152	896
11.5	1462	1462	1445	1383	1281	1281	1068	982	896
12.75	1211	1211	1211	1198	1141	1141	973	934	895
14	1065	1065	1065	1065	1053	1053	896	858	820
15.25	981	981	981	981	975	975	845	795	744.96
16.5	896	896	896	896	891	891	748	709	669
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ShellDude
For those that still don't get it... I'll spell it out for you.

D585 Dwell (LS2 Truck) coils w/ heatsinks in ATR (thanks to Oltman):

Code:
	1000	2000	3000	4000	5000	6000	7000	8000	9000
6.50	5398	4116	3159	2821	2304	1792	1421	1152	896
7.75	3939	3229	2579	2312	2049	1792	1421	1152	896
9	2488	2342	1999	1802	1613	1613	1421	1152	896
10.25	1923	1850	1678	1567	1421	1421	1245	1152	896
11.5	1462	1462	1445	1383	1281	1281	1068	982	896
12.75	1211	1211	1211	1198	1141	1141	973	934	895
14	1065	1065	1065	1065	1053	1053	896	858	820
15.25	981	981	981	981	975	975	845	795	744.96
16.5	896	896	896	896	891	891	748	709	669
Now you've wrecked all the fun
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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 12:03 AM
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Understand, it was not intended as a knock against either you or BHR. I didn't know myself for the longest time. We never know until we know ...
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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 07:46 PM
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Too much Dwelling on the past in here and not enough dwelling on the dwell
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Old Oct 17, 2012 | 04:58 PM
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i have been keeping up with this thread(and other ems threads), significant progress i gotta say. i dont post, as im learning bits by bits, slow? yes, but its all about learning new stuff, man i love it

time to lay low, good job guys ★poof★
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