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Old 07-23-2009, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.&Mrs.Magic

also i'm think about turning the fan 1 temp to 201 and fan 2 temp to 210??? maybe this will help stop the constant cycling also raise fan VSS to 15. 6 MPH in traffic is hardly a reason to turn off fan 2. Ideas remarks
not a good idea imo . you want all fans on full sooner rather than later
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We need an open source GReddy turbo map.
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We need an open source GReddy turbo map.
there are lots of maps very few of which will be the same for all the different setups ....
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Originally Posted by Brettus
not a good idea imo . you want all fans on full sooner rather than later
I'm following you but I have a BHR rad and the mazmart t-stat. It seems IMHO nither keep the car cooler but are more about getting the temp down faster so my fans are constantly on, off, on, off since it's cooling so fast. It's driving me nuts. Also i'm under the impression that the rx8 functions best at around 200 and it's hard stay in that range with the fans coming on so soon. Maybe my thoughts might change after going turbo dunno.

i'm thread crapping here

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/\ just chage the hysteressis if you want to stop the constant cycling
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Originally Posted by myriadshalaks
i think 12.5 -13.2 is where the power is for the renesis. so you're a bit rich.

everything else makes sense.

but your throttle tables are really rich compared to mine. what is that doing? seems like it would just make cruising mpg even crummier. of course, i'm not sure how this table gets into the action. So i'm worse off than you. lol.
Thanks for the tip on the AFR's.

Well I am not 100% sure about being TOO RICH,with mostly in-town driving I get 18 to 20 MPG, as long as I don't thrash it too much. Mostly, what I am looking for is a smooth transition from CL to OL. I've been running about 16.2 for my CL, so at moderate loads, when I pop out of CL to around 13 AFR it's very noticeable, I am just aiming to make it more smooth. I come out sooner, with less abruption. ( note about RB's comments on the room fuse and O2 sesnsor). I haven't noticed any issues with the pcm's learning for O2 feedback. Open loop fueling, as far as I can tell stays strickly programmed, and not affected by any learned feedback. On the other hand, it seems to learn feedback fairly quick, but it's not concrete, after over hundreds of miles, it still hunts for Stoich, especially at startup... Sorry about the sidetrack... With your input, I will probably go back and richen it up 1/2 a point or so.

I notice when I started tuning I aimed at 12.5, and had some spikes to around 13.3 with the v-fad apv and ssv that seemed to corresponded with a loss of torque, so I aimed a little lower to be safe untill I get the spikes ironed out. But it did seem that if I kept 12.3 to 12.7 it seemed good, I just wanted to error on the safe side for lower 12's instead of high 12's.

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The PCM read 10 degrees low @ 180, and 13 degrees low @ 190. My fans come on at 179 and 187 I think, with a 170 stat. I run 180 to 190 on warm days and come off an AUTOX track as high as 205-210 ( before rescaling the coolant temp table) according to my autometer gauge.

Also, idle speed ranges from 1300 to 900 for me.

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you guys got any ideas on the ignition map when using the mazsport ignition solution. Also anyone know what the to the dwell should be? I hear there is power to be gained by going to stock or similar settings when running the ignition solution on a NA car.
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Originally Posted by Mr.&Mrs.Magic
you guys got any ideas on the ignition map when using the mazsport ignition solution. Also anyone know what the to the dwell should be? I hear there is power to be gained by going to stock or similar settings when running the ignition solution on a NA car.
If you find out, post up here as I have been trying to fid out.
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-engine-tuning-forum-63/coil-dwell-settings-protuner-accessport-178635/
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added the throttle based oil pump map to media fire.

here's link

sorry for not having this on there earlier. it was an oversight.

if you're running the others, you should flash this too.
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How did you arrive at these numbers for the throttle map? I've tried to do a bit of reverse enginering on a map I have from jeff and his numbers seem to be a lot higher than what we have on the load map.

Umm just checked out the link and nothing is different from stock???

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Originally Posted by Mr.&Mrs.Magic
I've tried to do a bit of reverse enginering on a map I have from jeff and his numbers seem to be a lot higher than what we have on the load map.
O RLY? And which calibration might that be?
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Originally Posted by Mr.&Mrs.Magic

Umm just checked out the link and nothing is different from stock???
lol/ oops. you're right. i copied the stock. changing now.
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well, nevermind. guess it wasn't changed. for some reason I thought it had eben changed, and it was bugging me that i didn't have the .csv of it up.

looks like there;s some room to work on that one.

carry on.
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/\ yeah - do what I did : 1/2 all the values AND PREMIX !!!!
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Everything is pretty much based on a % change from observed values to desired values.

Of course blowing black smoke and burning 1qt of oil in a week would be a bit overboard OMP wise........ BTDT (oops)
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
O RLY? And which calibration might that be?
I suppose I could say 1 of about 15
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Originally Posted by Mr.&Mrs.Magic
I suppose I could say 1 of about 15
Well, considering they are all:

1) Locked
2) Done in Pro, so they can't be opened in ATR
3) The copywritten intellectual property of MazdaManiac LLC

I'd say you have quite a bit of explaining to do.
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Im rick James bitch! Take that Charlie Murphy!
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Well, considering they are all:

1) Locked
2) Done in Pro, so they can't be opened in ATR
3) The copywritten intellectual property of MazdaManiac LLC

I'd say you have quite a bit of explaining to do.
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FNG go build your post count somewhere else

Jeff why is it not surprising that once again you are here with your idle threats and unwanted comments. My explanation to you is your damn copyrights are still safe so whine to someone who cares.
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so did we ever figure out what was causing your too lean code? if your supercat, did we figure out how to mask it without tape?

i don't see how in atr we can mask cels. maybe i'm overlooking something?
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Originally Posted by myriadshalaks
so did we ever figure out what was causing your too lean code? if your supercat, did we figure out how to mask it without tape?

i don't see how in atr we can mask cels. maybe i'm overlooking something?
Edit > Advanced Parameters.
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Originally Posted by Mr.&Mrs.Magic
Jeff why is it not surprising that once again you are here with your idle threats and unwanted comments. My explanation to you is your damn copyrights are still safe so whine to someone who cares.
Not a threat, and I couldn't care less if you don't want to hear my comment.

I want to know how you opened the calibration. I'm not threatening you. I'm asking you to explain.
You've already admitted to the action, so you might as well explain it.


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