AP Mapz U Can Haz
Don't get me wrong; I would love to bust on Jeef's *****.. but the fact is that he has a really valid point. While he did paint himself into the corner (in the sense that he has to "sell" tunes to make money, and has chosen to keep his findings private) - it doesn't change the fact that anyone who screws with his tune and ***** up a motor is going to blame him.
Last edited by Kane; Aug 3, 2009 at 06:20 PM.
myriadshalaks- here ya go
These logs are Direct copies of your MAF recal loaded into ATR. I would do a better job in this post but i'm leaving in a few for bulgaria so time is out.
1) startup log- The first time starting the car after warm up. Map was loaded, car started and warmed up, drove it around the block let it sit for a min and logged data.
2) idle- this log was taken after 8 full cold starts and approx 200 miles driven
3) cruise- log taken in open loop on flat ground all power on A/C, lights, R defrost, the works.
4) WOT- this was a slow roll on throttle at low RMP's in 3rd gear.
Jeff and I do not get along but I will say the car drives a ton better with his maps. running on a stock map the car now fills like it has no pull down low *AT ALL* but the high RPMs' fills the same i guess. Fuel milage has gone to **** and for some reason it seems weird shifing at medium loads. There's a very slight bit of jerkyness or bogginess almost like I forgot how to shift. However on a positive the car idles way better on this stock type map. It doesn't fill like it's always trying to die. "that's all i got to say about that."
These logs are Direct copies of your MAF recal loaded into ATR. I would do a better job in this post but i'm leaving in a few for bulgaria so time is out.
1) startup log- The first time starting the car after warm up. Map was loaded, car started and warmed up, drove it around the block let it sit for a min and logged data.
2) idle- this log was taken after 8 full cold starts and approx 200 miles driven
3) cruise- log taken in open loop on flat ground all power on A/C, lights, R defrost, the works.
4) WOT- this was a slow roll on throttle at low RMP's in 3rd gear.
Jeff and I do not get along but I will say the car drives a ton better with his maps. running on a stock map the car now fills like it has no pull down low *AT ALL* but the high RPMs' fills the same i guess. Fuel milage has gone to **** and for some reason it seems weird shifing at medium loads. There's a very slight bit of jerkyness or bogginess almost like I forgot how to shift. However on a positive the car idles way better on this stock type map. It doesn't fill like it's always trying to die. "that's all i got to say about that."
well i didn't expect just the mafscale to do very much. why don't you try loading the timing and fuel maps too. that should help out with the power down low.
your cruise log afrs look good. don't understand why your mpgs would be worse.
your wot log looks like a you're running the stock fuel maps. leaning out those values would help a lot with power too.
and your idle looks steady.
my guess is all you need to really change are the timing and fuel maps. what do others think.
your cruise log afrs look good. don't understand why your mpgs would be worse.
your wot log looks like a you're running the stock fuel maps. leaning out those values would help a lot with power too.
and your idle looks steady.
my guess is all you need to really change are the timing and fuel maps. what do others think.
i had some stuff here... https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-engine-tuning-forum-63/r0tors-ap-tuning-thread-171247/
MS intake, turbo XS full w/o cat, mazsport ignition.
I know theres a lot to be gained on the fuel side but the ignition map scares me due to the mazsport.
with jeffs maps i was much learner all over the place and my cruise afr was in the 15's with a few bounces into ^14's. I assume thats where the mpg has gone.
I know theres a lot to be gained on the fuel side but the ignition map scares me due to the mazsport.
with jeffs maps i was much learner all over the place and my cruise afr was in the 15's with a few bounces into ^14's. I assume thats where the mpg has gone.
MS intake, turbo XS full w/o cat, mazsport ignition.
I know theres a lot to be gained on the fuel side but the ignition map scares me due to the mazsport.
with jeffs maps i was much learner all over the place and my cruise afr was in the 15's with a few bounces into ^14's. I assume thats where the mpg has gone.
I know theres a lot to be gained on the fuel side but the ignition map scares me due to the mazsport.
with jeffs maps i was much learner all over the place and my cruise afr was in the 15's with a few bounces into ^14's. I assume thats where the mpg has gone.
As for the cruise stuff... you are correct... go look at the AFR fuel tables in the lower load and RPM ranges - see the big rich spot?
would love to scrap the mazsport as i've read about it's recent failures but for me there are no other options i'm aware of. Is there anything besides the BHR and mazsport for over 300hp proven?
Ballin'
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I just loaded up the details from the 1st post of this thread. I will do a flash right now and let you know how it goes. I have a K&N Typhoon intake, MS Exhaust, AP Underdrive Pulley, GREddy pulleys, COBB (obviously, lol...). Similar to yours... I was running the Cobb Stage 1 map before this.
Here goes nothing!
Here goes nothing!
Ballin'
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Wow...she really pulled. Tons more juice in the 3k - 5k range. I was even peeling around corners and I have super sticky R compound 245 rubber. Little rough on idle, may end up boosting the idle rpm. Seems to be dropping to 750 for whatever reason.
Ballin'
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hey myriad, do you copy the fuel map you provided to all two (or in my case 3) sections of the Air/Fuel Gear maps? Or just the 1st section? Did you modify your Throttle Fuel Gear map? This is confusing, and as much as I know about engines I don't know sh*t about CPU's...