i would just do 1-2 and 3-4. The tables i have are for 1-3. So 1-4 should be okay. I use 4 for cruising, but you could use 5 or 6. no big deal.

my throttle fuel is stock. that and the ve tables are my next projects. i'm still unsure about how the the throttle fuel tables come into play.

good luck. looking forward to your write up about it.

 

glad to hear it. definitely better than the stage 1 map.

with the idle, you might try to pull the room fuse to reset your fuel trims. there's other things you could try too before you go into the idle map. Keep us posted.

 

Also may need to MAF scale / injector scale.

You started 3D tuning yet Chase?

 

visiting the cobb website is sickening anymore... the MS3 and MS6 guys have about 15 Cobb maps they worked with cobb to develop, PLUS launch control and no-lift-shift features now...

instead, rx-8 owners get the "joy" of working with a blackhole

 

getting some logs. probably this weekend i'll give it a crack.

 

Cool man - call me if you need some help.

 

will do, man. hopefully it'll go smoothly though. lol. never does.

 

Yes...this is quite upsetting. Is it because there are more 3's and 6's?? I don't know...it's a **** off.

 

no

 

Meh, weird. I've found that experts on COBB and tuning are extremely hesitant to offer help and advice. I could post about just about anything else related to the 8 and I would be flooded with helpful hints, info, and opinions. But when it comes to tuning you get treated like a terrorist when you ask for help. When I first bought my COBB I knew nothing about maps, I simply posted a request for maps not knowing if there were any. Someone who will go unmentioned accused me of being a cheap a$$ trying to get maps for free. I figured a hefty investment in the COBB was enough, gimme the software damnit!

Well let's buck that trend. I'm tired of the COBB Stage 1 garbage map, kudos to Myriad for trying to change the tuning culture.

 

No its because there are very few rotary tuners and even fewer Renesis 13B tuners. Even RX7 guys don't have a lot of options for tuning. There are an absolute crapload of piston tuners and learning Mazda piston engine tuning options isn't a huge leap from Ford/Chevy/Honda/BMW/etc. tuning once the PCUs were cracked.

Also there isn't a lot of money to be made tuning rotaries so when someone does get ahead the only way they can make out is to keep their tunes secret. With the piston engine Mazdas they might be able to give away a lot of their work and still make money from the people who would rather get professional tuning than DIYers.

But huge kudos to everyone trying to help change the culture for the better.

 

Interesting... good idea on starting a thread for this but... too bad I dont understand all this mumbo jumbo However I do plan on getting an AP anyways.

 

you guys should thank kane for letting us see the map.

 

No, because there are even fewer people willing to deal with direct injection and an ecu that varies boost by gears.

The difference is the MS community relies on Cobb to fix things and improve the maps (and then the information is spread) rather then the 8 community who funnels 98% of the problems through one person who has a vested interest in not spreading the knowledge he gains. Hence cobb themeselves are pretty much oblivious to how aweful the stage 1 map is because of a complete lack of feedback (which also has left them pretty much abandon the platform since whats the point is no one is complaining).

 

post your map, rotor. i want to try it.

 

???

 

My RPM issue kind of sorted itself out. Probably just hiccups from the new map. Went away after a few hundy k's. I still can't help but feel there's more power available in there.

 

lean out your fuel maps.

 

If you are running richer than 12.2-12.5 or so; then you need to scale your MAF and injectors - not screw with the fuel maps.

I am assuming your still using the base fuel maps I made right Chase?

 

yeah, good point. guess we should look at the logs and we need to know what maps he's running.

 

I'll start logging. I'm running your maps from the first post.

Q: What's the difference between the blue line and green line? Other than the obvious difference in AFR. I would assume blue is the way to go with the smoother curve.

 

This one?

Hard to compare unless you can overlay the Target AFR's - but overall what chase is showing is some lean spots from the original tune; which were taken out and smoothed by running Baseline a few more times.

 

Ah. I'm gonna continue to log and give your Baseline tuner a few cracks at her and I'll let you know what the end results will be. I should be able to crank out 200 whp with my setup.

 

blue line and green line are different fuel maps. they have different values. not much difference really. green line is richer.

 

Any chance I can ever get the target vs actual graph like that from you Chase?