It could actually replace a conventional starter if employed as you suggest. I would think that a more efficient use of the motor would be to drive the wheels directly, however, rather than drive the engine and subject it to driveline losses.

 

That's actually what made me go look at the UK site, because it didn't seem like anyone had a real good idea of what was going on. I guess we'll see what it's really like when someone puts theirs on a scale.

FWIW, I think that that's how Honda's hybrid systems work. It'd be interesting to see a hybrid rotary, because, as many others have already said, such a system would address the rotary's two largest shortcomings - lack of low end torque and poor fuel economy. I can't wait to see how the new 16X stacks up, though... Does anyone have a picture of a 13B from the same angle as the 16X pictures? The 16X seems a little shorter and fatter, but I'm comparing it to a straight on shot of the Renesis, so I can't really tell.

 

Done and done.

 

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And this response to your post is my 1000th. Cool.

 

I stand corrected. The 135i weighs 3383

 

actually thats the HIGHEST curb weight for the car in the 6speed with AC trim. the lowest being 2522 for the 5 speed no ac trim

http://www.morreyauto.com/mazda-vanc...-mx-5-prht.htm

scroll to the bottom and let google do your conversions

 

It would be very clever IMHO. On a further level, the motor could be integrated in the flywheel and wired to act as an alternator as well. In this scenario three fairly heavy components (starter motor, alternator and flywheel) would be replaced by a single one.
Not to mention that a 50hp starter motor would be useful in deflooding an engine: a mild 500 rpm or so cranking speed for normal starts and an as-fast-as-possible-with-gradual-acceleration cranking speed for deflooding

 

Isn't that what the Chevy Silverado Hybrid has? It lets it stop the motor at stop lights to. They call it a mild-hybid or something like that. Also does regenerative braking.

 

that would be pretty cool...

 

article here http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...ncepts/228629/ calls it " bigger(yet physically smaller)"

 

Very interesting!

 

Interesting. Thanks Charlie.

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This is interesting! WOW me Mazda... Put it in an RX7 replacement...

 

those from germany are number 1. now i have to get 3 new cars. the new rotary, the new audi 1, and the bmw M1. I hope these interiors make it to production. the future is finally here.

 

Cutaway model of Next Generation RENESIS (Rotary Engine 16X)

 

I copied this from a Japanese website

10A
e=15mm
R=105mm
b=60mm
Vh=491cc

13A
e=17.5mm
R=120mm
b=60mm
Vh=655cc

12A
e=15mm
R=105mm
b=70mm
Vh=573cc


13B
e=15mm
R=105mm
b=80mm
Vh=654cc

??????

12A'?12A??????????????
e=16.4mm
R=112mm
b=60mm
Vh=573cc

21A
e=18.5mm
R=128mm
b=85mm
Vh=1046cc

22A
e=18.5mm
R=128mm
b=95mm
Vh=1169cc

15A
e=15mm
R=105mm
b=90mm
Vh=737cc

And their guess for 16X is

16X
e=17.5
R=122.5
b=70
Vh=797cc
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I hear you! I am so torn between a potential M1 or 1M or what ever BMW decides to call it and the new rotary car. If Mazda did come through and produce a 2800 pound 16x rotary, I think that would win out. It would probally be less than the M1 also...

 

Great pic thanks!!!!

 

so it is actually a bigger 12A?

 

no... the radius is different. So the housing has to be bigger. Just that the rotor width is 70mm, according to their guessimate

Close to a smaller and thinner 21A
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I was refering to the 70mm wide rotor housings, the rest is bigger

editted

 

Thanks for the great pic renesis_8, now I am understanding the size differences.

 

Thought the same..
IMO the rotors would be 80mm like the 13B., but longer stroke (wider diameter) larger circumference.

BUT, Having said that, perhaps that is where reports of "larger but physically smaller" comes from, could be 75 mm.

 

Boy that is one "Long" looking side seal, I would imagine that they would be slightly heavier (thicker) as it has to seal a much larger surface area when compared to 10A,12A,13B.
Also stronger side seal springs.

I have some concerns about their long term reliability.

 

The rotor housings cannot be physically smaller, unless they have narrower coolant passages, which I don't think would be the case.

However a thinner front and back covers and better packaging will make it physically smaller.
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