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Old 10-29-2007, 06:47 PM
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Oh my children , and I can get away with saying that because I'm getting up there.
I thought I'd show you some 4 port vs 6 port pics, lest you think I've totally lost it.

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I could see it on the other thread you posted.. it certainly does look like, from the picture you posted, that it's a 4 port and the AUX port is blocked.. But you're still crazy, and you never share enough good info with those of us from texas

Thanks for the pics though.

It's nice to see that mazda has not discarded the 6 port design. I just hope I don't have to wait too long to actually see this engine in action.
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Originally Posted by Ajax
I could see it on the other thread you posted.. it certainly does look like, from the picture you posted, that it's a 4 port and the AUX port is blocked.. But you're still crazy, and you never share enough good info with those of us from texas

Thanks for the pics though.

It's nice to see that mazda has not discarded the 6 port design. I just hope I don't have to wait too long to actually see this engine in action.
Give me a call sometime. I'll share what I think is wise to be shared

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Old 10-29-2007, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Mazmart
Oh my children , and I can get away with saying that because I'm getting up there.
I thought I'd show you some 4 port vs 6 port pics, lest you think I've totally lost it.

Paul.
Thanks for the pics, I think this settles it, it is a 4 port
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What we need is more rotard pr0n...

Wonder if we can get a close up shot...something with a flash into the port area...
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It definitely looks like a 4 port with the aux ports blocked off. However, could it be that they just showed the 4 port config for the AT cars (as it's similar to the current 4 port design), and that there may still be a 6 port coming for the MT cars?
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Interesting. So are they going to do a 4 and a 6 port on this engine too? Perhaps? It confuses me to see this though as they dumped the 4 port 13B Renesis.
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Interesting. So are they going to do a 4 and a 6 port on this engine too? Perhaps? It confuses me to see this though as they dumped the 4 port 13B Renesis.
Maybe release the 4 port first for the RX-8 and then the 6 port with the following vehicle. Why would they do that? Maybe they know how weak the RX-8 transmission is?
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
Interesting. So are they going to do a 4 and a 6 port on this engine too? Perhaps? It confuses me to see this though as they dumped the 4 port 13B Renesis.
I can come up with a few guesses

1) The engine cannot rev higher than 7500rpm, hence the 4 port.
2) They will turbo this to put in a MS8 and 4 port works better
3) The ports are large enough to breath to 8500rpm
4) 4 port engine is lighter

I would like to see a 6port available tho. If the engine makes ~265hp@7000rpm, its gonna make a lot more at 8500rpm. If the ports are large enough to breath to 8500rpm, 2 extra ports mean more power at ~10000+rpm, assuming the exhaust ports can handle the flow.

However it is only applicable in a race car, as either option would take the engine out of factory suggested limits for a production car.

Although an engine that makes 265hp@7000rpm is much better than 265hp@8500rpm, I personally would prefer the higher revving engine.

A 6-port engine that makes 265hp@8500rpm that could flow more would be perfect. So the aftermarket can unlock more hp at higher rpm , and we can use that power at our own risks.
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
Interesting. So are they going to do a 4 and a 6 port on this engine too? Perhaps? It confuses me to see this though as they dumped the 4 port 13B Renesis.
The 4 port has not been dumped in all markets we still have the 4 port Auto's available here and have not seen the 6 speed/port auto RX-8.

Whether we will (Australia) see the 6 port/speed Auto in the new model next year is yet to be confirmed.

I do not think even the UK has had the 6 speed/port Auto.
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Originally Posted by Mazmart
Oh my children , and I can get away with saying that because I'm getting up there.
I thought I'd show you some 4 port vs 6 port pics, lest you think I've totally lost it.

Paul.
Yeah, Thanks for the pics DAD!..
Your not the only one UP ^^ THERE...(1957, You).

And yeah,I have flip flopped more on this issue than a politician, YES this display 16X IS a 4 Port not a 6...BOY!
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Originally Posted by Ajax
Maybe release the 4 port first for the RX-8 and then the 6 port with the following vehicle. Why would they do that? Maybe they know how weak the RX-8 transmission is?
Please tell me or us how week it is?

My thoughts: 4 port for the AT and the 6 port for the MT, also we will see a new Tranny.
Thats my 2nd prediction
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4 port is lightter and sympler for a small light weight car?

6 port more power more complex for a larger more heavy car?

maybe they got what they wanted out of a 4 port engine?

I think this is positive, if they got 20% more power and torque from a 4 port imagine what they can get out of a 6 port

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Originally Posted by ASH8
Yeah, Thanks for the pics DAD!..
Your not the only one UP ^^ THERE...(1957, You).

And yeah,I have flip flopped more on this issue than a politician, YES this display 16X IS a 4 Port not a 6...BOY!
You've got me beat by a few ASH. I was born in October of 1969.

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Any Admin or Mod want to combine these 2 threads. It's a bit annoying.
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Originally Posted by DOMINION
Please tell me or us how week it is?

My thoughts: 4 port for the AT and the 6 port for the MT, also we will see a new Tranny.
Thats my 2nd prediction
Yeah well the 16X IS connected to a dual clutch 7 speed trans right meow in the Takai....

Come on Mazdaspeed RX-8...16X+7 Speed Trans...

THATS worthy of the Mazdaspeed badge right thar...
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Yes - we need more info about the dry twin clutch 7-speed power shift setup for sure!
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
Interesting. So are they going to do a 4 and a 6 port on this engine too? Perhaps? It confuses me to see this though as they dumped the 4 port 13B Renesis.
I don't think Mazda dumped the 4-port--aren't they still selling the low-power 4-port 5-speed RX-8 in Europe and other countries?
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I don't think Mazda dumped the 4-port--aren't they still selling the low-power 4-port 5-speed RX-8 in Europe and other countries?
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I know why it is a 4 port

the car that this is going to be in does not have enough space for the 6 port intake manifold, the engine is going to be almost between the driver and passenger
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I know why it is a 4 port

the car that this is going to be in does not have enough space for the 6 port intake manifold, the engine is going to be almost between the driver and passenger

That would suck.
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That would suck.
No, I disagree, that'd be awesome for balance.
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