otakurx

Well I just had mine done and I am very impressed. Most definitely more responsive and I think runs better at the lower RPM then it did. I also found she starts better.

learycd

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i just picked mine up tonight, sounds better a deeper tone

BUT my idle is iffy, pulling off the lot it almost stalled at the light, but i kept it going and up in the rpm range for a little while

looks like it has settled in now,...for the most part. anyone know if this is normal?

dmc27

Sounds like a dealership that really doesn't want to deal with it. TSB 'superceded' is BS. Will it actually take more than 30 minutes to get a quick highway run for the dealer? It's probably worth the extra drive time it may take you to just use another dealership.

Speedtoys

"They actually filled my washer fluid tank that I had painstakingly emptied with a turkey baster to save weight. So I will have to shop around and locate another turkey baster, in order to empty to reservoir again. And I suspect that they might have topped off my engine oil, of course using an oil that is non-compatible with what I put in there!"
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Dude, you have issues.

Their oil should be compat with anything you put in, and you are freaking out over 6lbs of water?


PM me, when I should stop laughing.

ShinkaTeen

how much is a de-carb.?

cause i just called to take mine in. after i fud out about this... ive never really taken mine to the dealer before -_-.

learycd

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my dealer- 110 bones

still thinking of getting the decarb done?

teknics

Thats bullshit. MSP16 doesn't supercede anything. The service manager sounds like an idiot, how can an ecu flash supercede an engine decarb? the computer isn't gonna go clean the carbon out. Te de-carb is supplemental to the MSP16, if after the flash there is still a lack of power the MSP16 document specifically states to check the ignition system, check the catalyti converter performance and if all those check out you move onto the TSB for Lack of Power aka the Engine De-Carb.

I think your dealer just isn't rotary knowledgable.

I have found out through my rx8 customers that a majority of mazda dealerships apparently have techs who are just not knowledgable of the rotary motor and the rx8's setup.

Honestly as a tech who specializes in the rx8 I can tell you, honestly, these cars are easy to work on and relatively easy to diagnose especially when compared to some of the other cars in our lineup. The PCM is amazingly powerful and much more helpful then those in the 3,5,6,tribute. Nevermind the fact that you can generally narrow down all complaints into specific areas to look at. The rx8 has very specific weaknesses that if someone would just take the time to learn they would be very helpful.

I hear it from other techs all the time, it's as if they're afraid of the car because it's not a piston motor. I don't understand why no one else can see the ONLY difference between an rx8 and another car is the core of the motor itself. The ignition, fuel, solenoids, everything else in the car could be used on a piston motor and they all work the same way as their piston counterparts. But for some reaosn everyone thinks if a rotary engine is in the bay that EVERYTHING works different.

Sorry for ranting but it's dealerships like yours that are hurting rx8 sales and hurting dealerships themselves.

My only reccommendation is to find a real dealer and to write a full letter of complaint about your dealer to Mazda North America. In fact call that service manager and tell him you're writing a letter to them, and forward him a copy of the letter. I guarantee he will beg you to fix your car when you start saying that.

Also in case anyone else is on the edge of the De-Carb process, i posted a topic in here about my personal results with the de-carb and it's ability to literally bring a "blown" motor back to spec.

kevin.

lamarvannoy

i have like 13k on my car... should i get it de carbed? i scheduled an appointment for wednesday with open road mazda on route 18 in east brunswick nj. anyone ever dealt with them before?

LambertRX8

I too had lack of power issues with my '04 8. I took it in to get it looked at and the tried to give all kinds of reasons. I had already changed the plugs, wires & coils so that idea didn't work. All I wanted was the MSP16 upgrade and they sadi that wouldn't help. Then tried to sell me the de-carb for $200.00, I said no thank you. So they did the MSP16 and it still had power loss in high outside temp and driving hot.

I installed an AEM CAI and haven't had any trouble since.

This was all done at 130,000 miles. I now have 159,477 miles and haven't had any issues yet, knock on wood.

Just had the clutch replaced last week and it runs alot smoother and quieter now as well.

robrecht

Make an appointment with Kevin (teknics here) at Wayne Mazda and let him know you're a forum member. He seems to know rotaries well.

lamarvannoy

ok will do. thanks

invasion08

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Kevin is one of the best or the best when it comes to RX8's

alz0rz

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Did your OEM clutch last you 150k?

RX8SaxMan

I just had mine done today and had the exact same experience. It sounds really nice, power is good now, and idle was scariliy low right after I left the dealer - but seems to be ok now. I guess it must be a normal thing right after the flash is done.

Like Whoa

UGHHHH!
so i finally took my car in to get it serviced, and the tech reflashed the pcm with msp16. on my way home, i was @ about 5-6k rpms in 3rd gear (getting onto a highway), and suddenly just loss power, drops 1k rpm before i decided to shift. shifts into gear and ran fine again.

i have an 2004 auto rx8, already got a reman'd engine a year ago. i really dont wanna go thro the hassle of doing it again, it took these guys 2 weeks to replace the engine =(. i'm gonna take it in, let them perform the test, and hopefully i dont need a reman engine.

bummer!