RECALL: Engine Lack of Power (MSP16)
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same deal with me Clavius.. but I know its because I had been doing alot of city driving. Its amazing how drastic the MPG change is from highway to city. Today.. from Queens to Wayne to Middlesex and back to NY I averaged about ~220 on the tank. However, the week before I got a mere 160 miles to the tank... I didn't even do full city, probably 50% city.. but still.. it's terrible.. and yet I love my car
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alzorz i wish i can get 160 to the tank!! lol i do 90% city driving and what kills me is i let my car warm up in the mourning to go to work my job is 5 minutes from my house and i think such short distances is whats killing me but last week i managed 88.9 miles to a full tank of gas.. i dont even beat on it i get on it once in a great while
alzorz i wish i can get 160 to the tank!! lol i do 90% city driving and what kills me is i let my car warm up in the mourning to go to work my job is 5 minutes from my house and i think such short distances is whats killing me but last week i managed 88.9 miles to a full tank of gas.. i dont even beat on it i get on it once in a great while
Last edited by alz0rz; Apr 15, 2008 at 12:13 AM. Reason: typo
that can't be right... unless he's driving around with a loaded trunk and back seats and warms up his car for 30+ mins, heel toes every unnecessary turns, revs at red lights and stop signs.... ouch
alzorz i wish i can get 160 to the tank!! lol i do 90% city driving and what kills me is i let my car warm up in the mourning to go to work my job is 5 minutes from my house and i think such short distances is whats killing me but last week i managed 88.9 miles to a full tank of gas.. i dont even beat on it i get on it once in a great while
Oh I love how now at 1.5 to about 3.5k there is no hesitation I noticed this last night but didnt post it due to me being in shock of the horendous gas mileage I have. That and at 5k it now seems to well be hesitant for a moment. Like its breaking a ceiling barrier. Odd to describe wish I had a video camera so to show you what I mean.
so How do I go about getting my car done I prefer to have you work on my vehicle. and I have one quick question maybe you can answer. I need a alignment and have 20's is that a problem and any chance of getting a negative 1 on my rears.
thank you for your help I really appreciate it.
thank you for your help I really appreciate it.
As for the alignment, it all depends on the wheel lip and tire combo, but our alignment heads can handle 23's i think.
As for specific alignment setups, make a note of it to the writer and simply request that Only I work on it (kevin, obviously)
Depends on how the saturday is and what time you show up, i would call ahead tho.
Keep in mind that when they reflash, they pull the room fuse, so you should wait until after you've done a good bit of cruise driving before you say you gained horsepower.
Most people notice a difference in power after the room fuse is pulled, and I'm willing to bet that most people who are noticing a difference in horsepower are just noticing the difference from that.
I noticed a difference in power the first day or two after having that reflash, but now it feels the same as it used to.
Ken
Most people notice a difference in power after the room fuse is pulled, and I'm willing to bet that most people who are noticing a difference in horsepower are just noticing the difference from that.
I noticed a difference in power the first day or two after having that reflash, but now it feels the same as it used to.
Ken
thanks again guys, sorry Ive been missing for a few days, working on buying my first bike so been doing tons of research, Yamaha Vmax here I come
.Oh and hopefully I can swing by for tonights meet.
kevin.
I bring my car to the dearler today for MSP16 . The only thing tech did is reprogram PCM. I have 59,560 miles on the car and the service was free on this recall. I drove the car back to work today and I did feel the different. Alots smoother and a little gain of power.
If you really want you can send me your VIN and I can check it out for you.
Same reply as above, send me your vin and I can run a check on it for you.
thanks again guys, sorry Ive been missing for a few days, working on buying my first bike so been doing tons of research, Yamaha Vmax here I come
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Oh and hopefully I can swing by for tonights meet.
kevin.
Same reply as above, send me your vin and I can run a check on it for you.
thanks again guys, sorry Ive been missing for a few days, working on buying my first bike so been doing tons of research, Yamaha Vmax here I come
.Oh and hopefully I can swing by for tonights meet.
kevin.
Sorry for such a long wait, we were pretty congested at the time which happens whne servicing 120+ cars a day on average, I felt bad for the wait since the majority of the time I didnt even have the ticket yet. Then I had to wait for the Brake Lathe as both were being used. Hopefully the brakes make no more noise, let me know.
kevin.
kevin.
. The brakes are perfect right now. Were you the tech that took my car out for the drive as well? I watched as you pulled it away and saw you when you came back.. I hope you didn't mind the quart of RP Synthetic I had stashed under the passenger seat which apparently found its way out, just pretend you didn't see anything!!
I've got a question the cost of de-carb. Some of the posts here sound like it should be covered out of warranty -- is that correct?
My car is out of warranty (45K, Jul 03 -- came over on the first boat I think). Dealer is doing the MSP16 reflash w/ no charge, but is charging me $135 for de-carb. Is this reasonable? Or are they ripping me off?
My car is out of warranty (45K, Jul 03 -- came over on the first boat I think). Dealer is doing the MSP16 reflash w/ no charge, but is charging me $135 for de-carb. Is this reasonable? Or are they ripping me off?
I've got a question the cost of de-carb. Some of the posts here sound like it should be covered out of warranty -- is that correct?
My car is out of warranty (45K, Jul 03 -- came over on the first boat I think). Dealer is doing the MSP16 reflash w/ no charge, but is charging me $135 for de-carb. Is this reasonable? Or are they ripping me off?
My car is out of warranty (45K, Jul 03 -- came over on the first boat I think). Dealer is doing the MSP16 reflash w/ no charge, but is charging me $135 for de-carb. Is this reasonable? Or are they ripping me off?
If urs is really from the *first boat*, ur warranty should be even longer, u might want to check with MNAO.
I've got a question the cost of de-carb. Some of the posts here sound like it should be covered out of warranty -- is that correct?
My car is out of warranty (45K, Jul 03 -- came over on the first boat I think). Dealer is doing the MSP16 reflash w/ no charge, but is charging me $135 for de-carb. Is this reasonable? Or are they ripping me off?
My car is out of warranty (45K, Jul 03 -- came over on the first boat I think). Dealer is doing the MSP16 reflash w/ no charge, but is charging me $135 for de-carb. Is this reasonable? Or are they ripping me off?
I though warranty starts at purchase date, no? Build date doesn't matter. I could be wrong - it happens occasionally.
But even if yours started in July 03 you would still be covered until July 08. EDIT: However, I also think the de-carb procedure is only for lack of power complaints. It is on a separate "lack of power" TSB, not the MSP TSB. So the reflash is free, but the de-carb is part of a separate TSB which would only be free for lack of power complaints.
Notice the top 2 TSB (linked here) - both are "lack of power" but the top one is the MSP for reflash, while the second one down includes the de-carb for power issues. All my interpretation of them, but that seems to be the case.
Last edited by dmc27; Apr 18, 2008 at 10:10 AM.
Warranty absolutely commences at Purchase Date, vs. build date.
btw: My '05 sat on the lot for a year after its build date to my, new, purchase date. Kinda insane if the warranty clock was already running for that full year before I even owned it.
btw: My '05 sat on the lot for a year after its build date to my, new, purchase date. Kinda insane if the warranty clock was already running for that full year before I even owned it.



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