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Old 04-12-2008, 10:48 PM
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how did you guys make out at wayne yesterday?
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Going in Tomorrow for this. How soon after the reflash does the improvements become evident? I know or believe it takes times for the PCM to relearn trims and all that crap. Just be curious as to how they treat me after they see my rear endlink is snapped (they'll be doing a oil change at the same time).
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changes are immediate bro
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i'm going in tomorrow for brake squeak.. hopefully they won't gimme a problem if I ask to get the flash done as well..

driving to wayne mazda from queens for some reason.. i guess i feel more comfortable.. my other options are great neck or manhattan mazda?

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both great neck and manhattan dont have the best reps...
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Yeah thanks, I just set mine up for this Friday!!!
Old 04-14-2008, 08:29 AM
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I got my recall done saturday go there early my appointment was @ 11am but i was there a@ 10AM. They worked on my car around 11am and was out of there by 1130AM the latest i think.

Now i have to stay i deff feel the differance. When I down shift its when I feel it the most. When I used to down shift to pass cars I would feel a bit sluggish before the rpms would really take over....now it is more responsive in the same situation just sooner and a il stronger i think. I played w/it yesterday on my way to green acres mall in LI...and deff felt it pull harder. I deff recomend getting th erecall done.

I also noticed that the tones of the engine changes a bit...sort of deeper...

Very happy.
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^^did you get the decarb or just the reflash?
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dude im under 2k, lol...what carb? lol just reflash.
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I went in last Thursday, April 10 to get the reflash and de-carb done at Southern States Mazda in Raleigh, NC. I have a 6MT 2004 with 53,000 miles.

After about an hour, I was told they were able to do the de-carb but their computer was down and they couldn't do the reflash until next week. Let me say that I could tell a difference immediately in the power and smoothness of the engine from just the de-carb process by itself. As for actual results, I ended up getting about 20mpg averaging about 80 mph for my 400 mile road trip this past weekend as opposed to the regular 15-17 mpg.

The dealership called me today and said they got their computer back and I could stop by and get the reflash done. Luckily it only took about 10 minutes and I was out the door. As soon as I started the car, the engine dropped to ~500 rpms and almost stallled. I was skeptical at first but I was able to get the car idling normally and left the dealership. On my drive back to the office, I noticed an improved response from the car especially over 5,000 rpm. It seems to spin more easily and without restriction or hesitation. I have to say I'm a fan of this reflash and de-carb procedure. Like a previous poster said, I'll probably do this de-carb myself every 20,000 miles or so. Maybe more depending on the performance.

I'm also now a big fan of Southern States Mazda in Raleigh. If you live in the area, stop by...they seemed very eager to help me with my problems.

BTW...I will never again go to Capital Mazda in Cary again.
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How much does the de-carb cost? I might as well get it done since I have almost 50,000 on the engine.
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^Free dude...get'r'done!

Really! Just say that you are having a "Lack of power" and ba-da-bing...an appointment awaits. Apparently, the de-carb process takes about an hour so bring a good magazine. The reflash is done during the wait...assuming their computer is working.

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Originally Posted by ODDDOOD
^Free dude...get'r'done!

Really! Just say that you are having a "Lack of power" and ba-da-bing...an appointment awaits. Apparently, the de-carb process takes about an hour so bring a good magazine. The reflash is done during the wait...assuming their computer is working.

Good Luck
I'll make sure to tell them to decarb the engine. Watch those wormsters try to make me pay for it. lol
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Well so far the car feels like it grew a small set. Engine note is as others have stated a bit deeper (meaner if I had to label it). Mileage dunno filled her up just after I left the dealership. Took them 2 FRIGGIN' HOURS to reflash and do a oil change. Then to top if off the ******* scratched my MintBlue Spoiler. The Service Manager put some touch up paint on it though so yeah.. UGH... I was soooo pissed had to do some deep breathing to relax myself, cause I was ready to explode. He had the nerve to ask "Are you sure it wasnt there before hand?" I just said "I know for a fact it wasnt" the scratch was in a obvious spot and was rather long 1/2 inch atleast. UGH ok shutting up.. so far meh like flash still hate Gallery Mazda.
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dam bro sorry to hear about the scratch...did the touchup at least mask the scratch if not id have them redo it on their out of pocket...
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yah- my car lacks power all-around... lol does it qualify?
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kevin whats wrong with you......touch up?....i would have it at my body shop....period...
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Got it done today at Wayne Mazda. Took 3 hours to fix my break squeal and reflash me .

So far, no noticeable difference other than it seemed like it was a bit easier on gas!
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dude you coming out to the tuesday meet tomorrow?
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dude you coming out to the tuesday meet tomorrow?
I would so scan my work schedule so you can see i'm not trying to beat around the bush I truly can't make it.. and havent been able to because of work. I get next weeks schedule in a day or two, hoping for the best for next week.
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Keep in mind that when they reflash, they pull the room fuse, so you should wait until after you've done a good bit of cruise driving before you say you gained horsepower.

Most people notice a difference in power after the room fuse is pulled, and I'm willing to bet that most people who are noticing a difference in horsepower are just noticing the difference from that.

I noticed a difference in power the first day or two after having that reflash, but now it feels the same as it used to.

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question

Would it matter that my 8 is turbo charged? will they still perform the decarb and the flash w/o problems?
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i think i may need to go have the reflash and de-carb done as well. how do i know if i'm still under warranty? i have almost 41K mi already. would i need to pay for any of it?
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I got the flash done, no decarb. Car feels more powerful all around, it's very noticable when I'm in a higher gear and step on it a little.. Probably just the room fuse, but maybe the reflash helped too.. Either way, more oil on startup is a good thing.


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