Race Roots coming clean....
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like lady gaga and beyonce says "Trust is liek a mirror you can fix it if its broke but you can still see the cracks in the muthafudger reflection"lmao
but really
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Brice,
CUT
The reason I banned you is because this apology was something I forced you to do. If you can't come up with something like this on your own, then you still have a lot of growing up to do. I'm not going to sit by and watch you take kudos for my work, having the members believe you are trying to come clean on your own is something that I cannot do do my community. I intended to inspire you, but instead I see you regurgitating the things that I intended merely as topic points for you to consider.
I'm sorry I tried to help you in your time of need but remember that this whole situation was none of my doing and its gone too far already for me to sit idle.
CUT
The reason I banned you is because this apology was something I forced you to do. If you can't come up with something like this on your own, then you still have a lot of growing up to do. I'm not going to sit by and watch you take kudos for my work, having the members believe you are trying to come clean on your own is something that I cannot do do my community. I intended to inspire you, but instead I see you regurgitating the things that I intended merely as topic points for you to consider.
I'm sorry I tried to help you in your time of need but remember that this whole situation was none of my doing and its gone too far already for me to sit idle.
http://raceroots.com/index.php/produ...cessories.html
http://raceroots.com/index.php/produ...rt-bundle.html
So, while i'm not taking sides because i'm not the guy that may chime in and tell his opinion on whether he should stay or man up and go away after apologizing this is something we should keep in mind. It's been, following his words, some time since Scott **** on his plate but he's still not making changes.. Does it take more than a month to simply delete some products?
He's sorry but he's still doing the same thing again... Same conduct that the previous business followed before declaring bankruptcy.
If I were him i'd change my business model to simply reselling branded parts, possibly in another community.
Just my .02 cents
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this is the second scandal i've taken the time to read about brice.
i believe he will continue to do what he does lie cheat and steal then publicly apologize when caught. there will always be new rx8 owners that are simply unaware of brices lack of morals. id suggest putting this is the faq's but we all know few read those.
of course there are 1000's of people that had flawless transactions with brice how else would he be able to stay in business? but the fact he lied cheated and stole on more than a few occasions from a very small percentage should be reason to not let him do business on this site anymore.
i believe he will continue to do what he does lie cheat and steal then publicly apologize when caught. there will always be new rx8 owners that are simply unaware of brices lack of morals. id suggest putting this is the faq's but we all know few read those.
of course there are 1000's of people that had flawless transactions with brice how else would he be able to stay in business? but the fact he lied cheated and stole on more than a few occasions from a very small percentage should be reason to not let him do business on this site anymore.
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Well I would love to contribute to this nightmare, but it's just not worth my time. Hopefully after Brice gets perma-banned I can go talk to Internet Brands about getting my scrolling banners and advertising back. HINT HINT.Glad to see Karma is kicking Brice in the ovaries.
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That time he does do u dirty its going to be harsh... he's a shady person why risk it? Theirs plenty of other legit vendors and plenty of other sites u can use to get the same product if not better
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I go out into the desert for a few days to shoot some durka durka's and everything here falls apart!
I have bought from many vendors here, including Bryce. The first time I was promised parts by a certain time, which came a week later. Using what I knew after the fact, I placed a large order and everything flowed correctly.
I have also placed a few more orders since I have been in Iraq and never felt that I was being scammed by him. All parts have shown up at my home, on time.
As for the Scott issues, that was well before my time so I cannot comment on that. I feel that doing business with people who break the law is bad karma, but everyone is allowed to make mistakes in life....as long as you don't repeat them.
I have bought from many vendors here, including Bryce. The first time I was promised parts by a certain time, which came a week later. Using what I knew after the fact, I placed a large order and everything flowed correctly.
I have also placed a few more orders since I have been in Iraq and never felt that I was being scammed by him. All parts have shown up at my home, on time.
As for the Scott issues, that was well before my time so I cannot comment on that. I feel that doing business with people who break the law is bad karma, but everyone is allowed to make mistakes in life....as long as you don't repeat them.
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this is the second scandal i've taken the time to read about brice.
i believe he will continue to do what he does lie cheat and steal then publicly apologize when caught. there will always be new rx8 owners that are simply unaware of brices lack of morals. id suggest putting this is the faq's but we all know few read those.
of course there are 1000's of people that had flawless transactions with brice how else would he be able to stay in business? but the fact he lied cheated and stole on more than a few occasions from a very small percentage should be reason to not let him do business on this site anymore.
i believe he will continue to do what he does lie cheat and steal then publicly apologize when caught. there will always be new rx8 owners that are simply unaware of brices lack of morals. id suggest putting this is the faq's but we all know few read those.
of course there are 1000's of people that had flawless transactions with brice how else would he be able to stay in business? but the fact he lied cheated and stole on more than a few occasions from a very small percentage should be reason to not let him do business on this site anymore.
Lying and stealing are two vastly different things.
Thank you
#195
He doesn't even make the product anymore I have outsourced it to another production facility awhile ago.
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you effectively helped scott steal, you were his enabler
you mean you were unaware of the tyrade going on around here when the mazsport thing went down? cause otherwise, you knew
To my knowledge none of the product I have sold was ever stolen from a former customer of his.
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How did I help him steal? There really is no logic in that statement I didn't start working with him until awhile after that fact his business went under.
Again, to my knowledge I never sold stolen product.
With your statement you are making it seem I was working with him before his business went under and I knew it was going to go under which I did not.
Again, to my knowledge I never sold stolen product.
With your statement you are making it seem I was working with him before his business went under and I knew it was going to go under which I did not.
#198
As Paul stated you were his enabler.
Since you knew what happened you just helped a known thief that robbed this club of over 100,000$ and then tried to do the same on other boards with crap quality turbo kits that he couldn't design etc. The only difference is that this time he drew your reputation in the quicksands he was already swimming in.
I'm not saying that you're a bad reseller when things go straight forward but it is my personal experience that an "in stock" product can turn out to be a 5 months hassle because of lack of honesty on your side that needs a bad guy thread to be solved.
In both cases there's a lack of honesty and as staticlag pointed out you were also forced to come clean here. Since the mods also unbanned you i don't really think that you'll learn your lesson yet.
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How did I help him steal? There really is no logic in that statement I didn't start working with him until awhile after that fact his business went under.
Again, to my knowledge I never sold stolen product.
With your statement you are making it seem I was working with him before his business went under and I knew it was going to go under which I did not.
Again, to my knowledge I never sold stolen product.
With your statement you are making it seem I was working with him before his business went under and I knew it was going to go under which I did not.
unless you are saying you missed this: https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...light=mazsport
or any of the other related threads that were prominant duing that time, then you knew at least the basics of what had occured. And by enabling him to just step into the darkness and continue working with a new face to show(you/minds eye), you helped him complete his theft.
By working with a man who owes so much to people around here, enabling him to further his own financial goals when he has not even made a statement in the direction of making any amends - says a lot. Like, you are at least accepting of the actions happened, and that like most you are concerned primarily with your own goals. The most basic aspect of the human condition - greed.
If a kid steals from the cookie jar and one day he feels bad about it, he goes and tells his mom and cries, probably all confused trying to understand this conscious thing that makes him feel bad. But in this case, you got caught with your hand in the jar. And mommy has rightfully given you a lil spanking. The question is, are you upset because your *** hurts and you got caught? Or because the spanking made you see things from another perspective and begin to feel remorse for having the role you've had?
I surely believe either one could be the case, but many people here may not take the chance on you crying cause you got caught
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