T-von

Mazda isn't gonna have any problems reaching it's weight goal. Hell a base model fd weighs in the low 2700lbs range. Now consider that were dealing with no turbos and a larger displacement all aluminum engine that's already lighter than the smaller renesis, plus modern day exhaust is much lighter than that anker of a system the fd had. So you can easily see Mazda hitting their weight mark. Also, don't understimate the added torque were gonna get from the 16x longer storke. I've menchioned a while back that I felt the torque delivery will be 20b like. Trust me that's a great thing. I strongly feel the new rx7 will be a much better performer than most here will give credit for.

Footman

iTrader: (2)

longer stroke.. hopefully won't mean reduced RPM.. I love my revs...

j9fd3s

me too, with the new engine i would expect everything to happen 1000rpm lower than the Rx8, so peak power should be like 7500 instead of 8500.

what i expect vs what we actually get could be different however

alnielsen

iTrader: (4)

My RX7's redlined at 7000 rpm. The S3 ran out of air, due to a restrictive air cleaner, a few hundred rpm before that.

T-von

Yea I've been curious about this engines rev range also "especially with it's massive rotors'". The really nice thing here is by the time this car releases, Mazda would have had nearly 10years of development time with the new engine.

T-von

The stock fd had a similar problem. With the seq twins, the hp peaked at 6,700rpms. The power started falling off quickly afterwards.

nabatron

I just hope with all this time they have to figure out the engine specs they get the body style perfect as well! I cant wait to see what the car will look like in up coming concepts!

ZumnRx8

We need a sketch of this so called RX7,

alnielsen

iTrader: (4)

We're 4 yrs out until the sale of a 2017 model RX. All they may have is a sketch. Probably several.

Mazmart

iTrader: (12)

A little birdie (In Japan) told me the new engine is still a high revver. Expect 9000 to remain .

Paul.

T-von

^ Hell yea! Now I really can't wait to see the new engines power curve.


Edit: I just remembered Mazda saying somthing a while back about a dual clutch auto transmission?

alnielsen

iTrader: (4)

Ash, say what you will about Ford. But, it seems to me that about the time Mazda and Ford split, owners started having problems getting a warranty claim on their engines.

ZumnRx8

Let's see them! Be nice to know what's coming, just like the RX8 when it was a concept, we will either like it or hate it right away, visually (hatch, two door)

olddragger

iTrader: (3)

uhhh--now Paul you know the current engine is not really a 9K engine.
Yes you can rev it to 9K but there is less power there and you reduce the life expectancy.

comebackqid

iTrader: (13)

here's a sketch of the RX-7,8,9? what ever they will call it

As the Rotary Turns: Next-Gen Mazda Rotary Still On the Table - WOT on Motor Trend

http://wot.motortrend.com/mazda-desi...#axzz2Cd0iqkjb

These are old but still images I like both the silver, and red one from the lower link.

Footman

iTrader: (2)

Would be great if they can make it 10,000 rpm. It would be great marketing keypoint too to sell the car. A nice even magic 10k rpm wows anyone!

Especially now that cars like LFA and 458 rev to 9k as well.

ZumnRx8

^ Those both look like winners, the silver one looks like a $40k car and similar to the new Mazda 6, but the red one screams Furai and has Winner written all over it.....along with a $70k price tag. Someone needs post the pics. Either way, if it ends up looking like either of the two I will be all over it with check book open. Mazda has to be careful, Toyota does have the Supra coming back....

comebackqid

iTrader: (13)

Dude seriously I hope they take that into consideration and engineer the crap out of, yet make it still easily accessible with a open ecu for tuning and all that other groovy stuff. even though those pics are old I do like both of them I think either would be nice, I just hope they make them build-able from factory so you can pick and choose your color options etc.

T-von

^ The next gen Miata is suppose to be highly custamizable. The new Rx7 should be no different since it's Mazda's flagship.

Mr_Pieper

Has anyone else had the thought cross their mind that there may be a few very unassuming RX-8s quietly running around with 16x's as test mules? Secretly making extra power and keeping it to themselves. All shifty and whatnot.

8 Maniac

iTrader: (1)

Everyone, please keep in mind those are artist renditions. Those use basically nothing official from Mazda other than hints from recent design cues and other concepts.

This is the RX-Evolv... basically the original RX-8 concept.



Some points are similar, but I would hardly call it a proper way to tell if you're going to like the RX-8's looks or not.

Bladecutter

Probably not just yet, but you will need to be in Japan to find them over the next several years. Chances are, it will most likely be in a Mazda 6 or Mazda 3 body to test on, because no one looks twice at those cars in traffic.

BC.

NotAPreppie

Post hoc, ergo propter hoc.

elysium19

iTrader: (1)

I think what we've all learned is that they need to give all the cars a 100,000 mile engine/powertrain warranty right out of the box, so that potential buyers don't concern themselves with reliability at all, and just focus on the excellent performance.

Remember how relieved everyone was when they extended the S1 engine warranty to 100k? It was pretty meaningful, but being an after-the-fact change effectively wasted all the reassurance it would have provided.

ZumnRx8

^ even with the 100k warranty, people were still getting denied engine left and right ...cough..cough..ME! :-/