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Old 11-13-2012, 12:59 AM
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That's impressive with NA. Race tires?
It's not a stock car but the tyres are semislicks.

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anyone seen these yet?

Mazda RX-9 hybrid on its way | News | Auto Express

Its OLD but the pick is pretty neat looking, and the late 2013 launch is funny too.

here is a reflection of what was previously said it seems to be pretty accurate till this date.
I just hope it doesn't look anything like that picture (ewww!)
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(OLD news as well but good to know they've been working on it and now we know its been confirmed.)

one more old thing
The Mazda Taiki concept car - Image 4 of 4

anyone else see some RX-7 in that front I do.
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Originally Posted by ASH8

What NAME??....again, IMO a boring subject in what 'a' new RX- will be called...it really does not matter, but I guess to some RX-7 will appeal, personally I believe RX-9 is a far better idea......a new beginning.
I do realize that the name of the next Rx is a boring subject although, the name might change the way people judge it from a psychological stand point. It's always good to get a new beginning and a new name may have a bigger impact than some people think, even if it's minuscule.

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I have to disagree with you partially there. Every iteration of the rotary has had it's own problems. The reason why is Mazda keeps changing/adding new technology (which it should) which generates new issues and theyr'e the only ones doing it. Side seals, etc... What will it be next time? I'm really afraid of this laser ignition. How much will that cost to repair? I can hear it now. "I'm sorry sir, you need to replace your LIS." Only Mazda will make it so it will cost a lot. First few years would have issues and ten years later everyone will be like yeah the first gen LISs had issues but they got right for 2nd gen, blah blah blah.

Mazda should make a deal with Fiat (Alfa Romeo) to not just make an Alfa of the MX5 but a rotary powered car as well. Fiat could give some money/engineering help, that way they could keep costs down and double the efforts. If Mazda has the rights to liscense the rotary they need to just give their rotary to another manufacturer to get different thinking on it. If the manufacturer can improve it they can use it along with Mazda. We need more engineers working on it.
If you believe that the Rx cars are the only to have issues in the first few years then you are definitely wrong. The current Bmw 1, 3, and 5 series and other models I can't remember are suffering problems with their high pressure fuel pumps. The Fr-s is also having problems with rattling (my cousin is a mechanic for toyota) and some cars having problems with their ECU.

As for Mazda making a deal with Fiat sp.a to share rotary engines may be unlikely. Manufactures in the past have tried to develop the engine but found the piston powered engines to be more efficient than the rotary. I do agree that it would help keep costs lower. I personally would hate to see fiat get their hands on the rotary. Mazda r power ftw!!

Speaking about sharing engine technologies, what happened with audi considering a partnership with mazda to develop the rotary as a range extender?
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All I hear is the School Principal from the Peanuts cartoon series:

Blah-blah, blah-blah, blah-blah-blah-blah .....

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295 horses N/A?

Mazda Sports Car Chief Says RX-7 will Return in 2017, Produce 295HP - Carscoop
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Press reports are unreliable. Quotes from Mazda are only slightly more. Remember the RX8 was originally over rated, by Mazda, at 250 HP.
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Originally Posted by scorcherjf
Really hope they can make this possible! I have my doubts though... if they really are going to use the 16X how are they going to get the fuel economy to be up to 2017 standards? I believe it's mandated to be somewhere around 36mpg on the combined cycle by 2016 in the US!
i think they could do the Italyan thing to do.... lie
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i think they could do the Italyan thing to do.... lie
You're so ignorant you can't even spell Italian right.

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You're so ignorant you can't even spell Italian right.

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Guys think again if it will be a Rx-7 It must compete with GTR, Nsx, Supra... Do you want Rx-7 squeeze..

I want this black tuned roadster rotary Mx-5 platform.. Re-desing it and turn the scene with rational upgrades...

If it is going to be produce, it will be cheap, it will be reliable, it will be lightweight, it will be pure sports car, it will be a LEGEND !




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Interesting hype!

The FRS/BRZ will not be turobed and they are coming out with the next Generation Supra.

I wouldn't doubt it if MAzda used an electric assist motor for driving around town.

Then it would get good gas milage.

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You're so ignorant you can't even spell Italian right.
sweet, talking about typos gotta love you guys.
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Perhaps you should start by being civilised instead of offending other nations.
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Originally Posted by madman6069
i think they could do the Italyan thing to do.... lie
Really?

Have some respect.

You have no right to call Italians liars.

Obnoxious new member is obnoxious
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sweet, a forum thug talking about typos gotta love you guys. P.S. grow up
The guy making cheap comments and insulting other countries is talking about "forum thugs" and telling someone to grow up? Keep it up. It wont take you long to get a warning or a ban with that kind of attitude. Don't worry, you wont be missed.
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........."a special catalyst".......interesting!
would this be something introduced along with the fuel to give a complete burn????
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Originally Posted by fish1
........."a special catalyst".......interesting!
would this be something introduced along with the fuel to give a complete burn????
I would say they found a better design for the catalytic converter.
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Originally Posted by fish1
........."a special catalyst".......interesting!
would this be something introduced along with the fuel to give a complete burn????
Mazda invented a catalytic converter with nano technology within the last 5 years that is quite revolutionary.

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Just read this comment about a few 'journalists' reviewing some SUV's including the CX-5....

Goes to confirm what many (me+) have been saying about the Ford involvement @ Mazda, particularly the late 1990's to early 2005.....

As you will recall, Ford used to control Mazda, but it kicked Mazda to the curb when the auto industry tanked. I met with the engineers who worked on the CX-5. This was the first all-new model since Ford dumped Mazda, and they all said they were so happy to be able to do things “their” way rather than the “Ford” way. They pointed out dozens of engineering improvements that Dearborn would have argued against. It’s a beautifully handling vehicle, although I agree it’s a little short on power.
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the personal battle of Ash against Blue Oval is near to end.....

Mazda employeers are spilling the beans....

i agree that Mazdas of "pre-30%stakesFord Era" was better engineered cars and higher positioned in market.
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Originally Posted by MattMPS
the personal battle of Ash against Blue Oval is near to end.....

Mazda employeers are spilling the beans....

i agree that Mazdas of "pre-30%stakesFord Era" was better engineered cars and higher positioned in market.
...

I don't know whether or not I posted this here, so here goes..

Ford made Mazda (Australia) merge their HUGE Mazda Spare Parts department within Ford, under Ford control/distribution in Australia about 10 years ago....what a headache.

Mazda Dealers here were getting Ford Parts instead of Mazda, Ford body panels instead of Mazda, this continued for years....Ford do not cross reference Part Number with location, so if the picking slip says the location for THE Mazda part is 'ABCDE' then that is what is picked and sent to dealer, even if it has been located wrongly in the beginning...or has a FORD label on it!! FFS.

Anyway, when Ford walked away from Mazda, this year Ford Australia gave Mazda Australia 7 months to get their parts out!!....that is 7 months to find a completely new location, staff it after sacking many a decade earlier, put in a new computer system, new parts binning, etc, etc...they still have not recovered.

Plus Ford Australia (parts) would not return (allow MA to remove) their multi-million dollar Parts binning carousels that Mazda paid for..

You don't think Mazda are bitter!?
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BTW: I can say this will the utmost confidence, there will never be the same co-operation with Ford again...if they (Mazda) could get out of their Thailand plant (BT-50/Ranger, some Mazda 2) they would....

Come 2015 I predict Ford will divest itself of their remaining MMC stake of 2.9%.
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Originally Posted by Bladecutter

How can Mazda get shoppers to compare their products directly against BMW, Porsche, Audi, VW, and Mercedes?

BC.
This question keeps coming up. There is an answer, if Mazda is fast and good enough:

Mazda: The Japanese Diesel

Succeeding there could bring a lot of free publicity in matters that the public cares about, establish the company as a Master of engine technology (a place vacated by Honda), and bring in significant profits (which a rotary will never do). Anyone shopping for a diesel then has to visit VW and Mazda, giving a 'guilt by association' with German car makers. Skyactiv-D will have to be good though, very, very good.
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Originally Posted by ASH8
Side Exhaust Porting is not new either for Mazda....they experimented back in the early 70's with MSP, as they did with long stroke or Longer Rotors (13A), like the 'new' 16X.

Ignition and Fuel (Carbon) has always been a bug of Rotaries.
the difference now, vs the 1970's is that they can try a bunch of different chamber shapes and sizes in the computer before they even build it, its made a HUGE difference to the piston engine, there have been huge gains in mileage, power AND a reduction in emissisons, and the rotary hasn't had that fine tuning yet.

and with all that direct injection/computer design, newer piston engines clog with carbon too, Audi wants to take my dad's A6 engine apart every 20,000miles to clean the carbon out, needless to say the car has been sold, and 20K carbon cleaning interval is actually twice as frequent as an MGB/Triumph Tr3, which actually had that as a normal service.

Originally Posted by ASH8
...Ford ....what a headache.
we had to deal with Ford in the US and they are horrible. even in the USA, they don't have parts, their cataloging sucks, they didn't document anything that came out of the factory, so some parts, like the belts for the trucks you actually need the part number off the old belt to get a new one. or you can take a chance on one of the 18 choices.

ford and mazda did share a warehouse in the US as well, and this has changed, however there were a couple others that Mazda had by themselves.

the parts shortages were so bad we were waiting 6+ months for stuff. we actually had a tribute come off the truck with a damaged hood, and ended up parting the thing out because all the tributes broke, and we couldn't get anything to fix em.

i'm so glad i don't have to deal with Ford stuff anymore!


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