Racer X-8

Ya, the main recall thread is https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...page=134&pp=15

I've been TRYING to keep up with it. There seems to me to be quite a few who take it in healthy and have to return it later with a now-bad engine,,, and other bad stuff...

blueballz

Yes its also part of the recall. Not giving your car atleast 2 to 3 mins to before driving will allow build up of carbon deposits on your spark plugs and take a major affect to gas mileage and hp. Give you car about 2 mins then rev to 8rpm then go, upon turning off allow 2 to 3 mins at idle then cut off.

If you follow this you shouldn't have any problems with flooding but if you do have problems with start up call mazda it's their responsibility to fix it due to recall 4206F.

swoope

iTrader: (5)

did you read your post.. i hope not... if so you have no idea what you are talking about...

beers

MX6_2_RX8

I hear that it will give you bad breath too. Not Good!

j67345

Well, you can add me to the list. '04 with ~33,000 miles....never flooded...got the recall done a couple weeks ago, and I went to run some errands tonight, and it just keeps turning over again and again. It sounds kind of funky though when it is turning over...weird. I wonder if this has something to do with the recall? I don't drive it often, only once since getting the recall done. UGH!!

Racer X-8

that sounds very bad to me...

j67345

Well, I did the flooded engine procedure, and it took FOREVER...but finally started up. So I went for a drive to try to clear it out. I'm afraid of what this may have done to my engine...but since it seems to happen to about everyone...whatever it did to mine...it has done to others as well. I'm nervous aobut this though!

Racer X-8

I hope it'll be fine now. I should make this disclaimer: I've never flooded mine, so I don't know how one sounds when it's flooded. Having said that, why would a flooded engine sound kind of funky? Too many people come away from this recall with major new problems, IMHO.

j67345

Funky was the only word that I could think of. It almost sounded like the starter wasn't grabbing all the way or something? It just sounded real rough. I thought I was one of the lucky ones that would never have it flood. Heck, the last time I drove it....it was for at least 45 minutes!
It probably didn't do anything, but I'm worried that this did something bad to my engine.....my worry was that it was spinning without enough oil in it or something while it was turning over and over and over....geesh....now I feel for everyone that has had this happen now that I have to do it!

RedSheDevil

my flooding got me a new cat under the recall ...

j67345

I should probably get mine into the shop to have it checked out, huh?

rx8frank

Yep same here for me....I did the recall, reflash, and maybe 2 weeks after the recall I park my car in the garage for the winter and last weekend I wanted to move the car to wash and shine and try to start and the starter only crank the engine but no start not even want to So I called a friend of mine and told me two thing maybe it is flooded or the spark plug need to be changed (only have 24000 miles ).

So I had to remove the spark plug; crank the engine; put the spark plug in; crank the engine (took forever) and it finally started with a huge smoke in garage that I needed to get out

nycgps

iTrader: (1)

Go have them check, and they should replace whatever you need (new starter, maybe battery, leading plugs)

but I suggest you to try to push start your car next time, its more efficient than the deflood crap. and usually you can start your car faster.

j67345

Man, I was tempted to push start it since my driveway grades down fomr the garage, but then I figured I'd be stuck in the middle of the street looking real smooth with a nice car that won't turn on. It did take probably close to a half hour to get it to finally turn on and stay on. TONS of smoke in the garage (my wife was real happy to smell my car while she was in the kitchen!)
I'll schedule an appointment. I wonder if it'll start for me the next time I want to drive it?!

rx8frank

Me too I'm afraid it won't start but I'm gonna give a try this weekend

MX6_2_RX8

Holy crap a lot of people have flooded AFTER the engine recall. I've posted about this in other threads. I drove mine for 45 min and tried to start it 2 days later. I couldn't get it started.

Those of you who have got it started again - Can you explain how long forever is. I've tried it until the battery was dead, charged it and tried it again with no luck. While you are trying is there any sign of it catching because mine just cranks and cranks like it will never run again.

RedSheDevil

^^ when mine got to that point i called roadside and had it towed. i was told all that trying is what prolly fried my cat.

MX6_2_RX8

I keep thinking of selling it these days. At this point I never expect it to start and am thankful every time it does. Not what you want in a car you bought new!

j67345

I just had my battery replaced about 2 months ago, so it was nice and fresh…I bet I was cranking for at least 20 minutes….I never had it feel like it wanted to start when I had my foot pushing the gas pedal down. The only time it felt like it wanted to grab was when I was only pushing the clutch…no gas.
After a really long time, it would (I think) fire once….and then keep cranking…..then fire once…keep cranking. The problem I had was that I didn't want to kill my starter, so when it would try to actually turn on, I'd stop trying to crank the starter. That probably flooded it all over again (I figure). So finally, the only way that I could get it to start was to keep it cranking until I could get the engine to rev up a little bit. That's when I put it in gear, kept the RPM's up so it wouldn't stall…and went for a drive. I'm really afraid to see if it starts next time. What the heck are they doing in this recall test that could cause this? I've had it two years…..30,000+ miles…and have never even came close to flooding.

MX6_2_RX8

Thanks for the info. My guess is that it is the new PCM programming. Mine takes several seconds to catch now and then it just kind of sputters to life. It does not instill confidence.

rx8frank

Ok as far as forever is......when you removed the spark plug you crank your engine for about 10 sec. and after you put spark in their place and start the engine again; don't touch the accelerator and when you hear the engine want to rev quicker push the accelerator to the floor (not more than 15 or 20 sec). Stop and repeat until it start....let me tell you that when it start you'll have a lot of smoke around...
Took me about 15 min to start the car after the spark plug were in there place...

swoope

iTrader: (5)

why did you touch the accl to begin with??? no reason to... and the accl to the floor just kills the fuel...

beers

BoosTED

iTrader: (2)

The manual does state to press to the floor if flooded.

Like Swoope says it cuts the fuel.

rx8frank

I know I tried what the manuel said before removing the spark plug...and nothing worked. But when I removed the plugs the trailing plug were soken wet..and the leading were dry and had carbon built up so I removed the carbon clean it and put them back...

dkuhlman

For SALE: 1 2004 RX8 42000mi, new tires, recent flash, new starter, battery, plugs. Just don't try to drive in cold weather!!!!
Second flooding, car towed today to dealership. My advice..get a reliable v6.
Tired of the unreliability of this engine!
By the way, I follow all the tech bulletin recommendations for starting and stopping and this engine still gives me grief. ........just venting.