krijpipudht

THREAD RESURRECTION !!!!!!!!!

Well, search function found me this thread.
I have an answer for his question which will lead to my problem.
Instead of starting new thread, I just wanna share my trial & error results here.
Anyway, I might be wrong.

Batt + : normally RED wire
Ground : normally BLACK wire
One that says "On - wire to ciruit that will not be turned off when engine is cranking" : normally ORANGE wire
ACC On : normally YELLOW wire
Small Lamp : normally BROWN wire


coilback problem was his wiring for
Batt +
and
One that says "On - wire to circuit that will not be turned off when key is turned"
are wrong.

His gauge must be one with self sweeping function. (Opening and closing ceremony)

Before gauge starting, Gauge must detect when the car starts via ACC (Yellow wire) and On (Orange wire) and perform self sweeping.

coilback orange wire is same as ACC so that gauge wont detect engine start, therefore, wont start itself.
Red wire (+ wire) should connect to un-switched 12v source so that gauge could perform closing ceremony after engine shut off.

Or other reason is his gauge is dead.
Hope it is correct.

krijpipudht

Straight to the point.


I can’t find where to tap "On - wire to circuit that will not be turned off when engine is cranking" in the driver's side kick panel.


I used multi-meter to check v. in the panel.

There are 2 sections in the fuse panel.
Top one shut off when engine is cranking and when car is off.
Bottom one is constant 12v (always on.)

I tried to hook On-orange wire to constant 12v., everything works except after ending ceremony, it stays in ACC mode and won't turn off. (Needle blinking, waiting for engine start to perform opening ceremony and fully function)



Did I miss something, my voltage reading is wrong?
Where to connect On-orange wire?

Thanks.

krijpipudht

Help pls.
Thanks.

StealthTL

iTrader: (1)

Fuse marked 'room'.

S

krijpipudht

Thank you Stealth.

However, still no success.


I recheck "room" again and my multi-meter still reads as always-on 12v.
It is on even key is out and car is lock.


I believe that "room" is for interior lighting. (I pulled the fuse out and all interior light go off.)
It should be always-on power source since interior lights still function even key is out of ignition.


More info of my car.
04 MT base model. No navigator. No power seat. None Bose.

Thanks.

StealthTL

iTrader: (1)

Sorry krij - I mis-read your question.

The problem is that anything 'switched' will go thru a relay, and relays drop out during cranking.

I don't think you'll find a steady signal during cranking....

S

coilback

Thanks, I'm going to give it a shot. I still haven't gotten around to messing with it, so the gauge is still sitting in the pod, dead. I eventually want to change them out (just because they have "smoke" lenses on them so they are hard to see during the day), but it would be nice to have all the gauges actually working. I have to go find my "Swoosh" manual that tells me which wire goes to which (on the gauge end), since I don't remember at this point. REALLY hope it works. Will report on here when I find out.

krijpipudht

I'm trying to install Swoosh gauges too.
The others gauges might work since they got the reading from sensor module.
Voltage gauge does not have extra sensor module. So it won't work if it can't detect engine start.

I guess the person who installed your gauge missed this part.



However, I'm in the same situation with you right now.
Problem is RX-8 does not have "On - wire to circuit that will not be turned off when key is turned".

I start another thread if anyone can locate that ON wire.
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-interior-audio-electronics-24/help-wiring-wire-circuit-will-not-turned-off-when-key-turned-165133/





Gauges are readable in daytime if the dimmer (brown wire) connect correctly.
Or else it will always dim and make it hard to see in daylight.

coilback

Hey, if you have the Swoosh manual, can you either post or send me a scan of the page that tells you which wire is which on the voltage gauge ? I can't find my manual to take another look at the wiring there.

Not sure what you mean by the dimmer wire thing. Anyone successfully install a Swoosh voltage gauge on here ? If so, what did you use ?

Also, does anyone know if there's any sort of "Standard" on sensor modules (sending units) ? If I got another set of gauges would it be possible to just clip the wires and use the same senders without having to re-run and install new sending units ?

coilback

Not sure if this is a significant fact (could someone tell me if I'm understanding this right):

Yes, the Swoosh gauges have the "opening ceremony" to them. Right now, the Voltage gauge DOES "participate" in the opening and closing ceremony along with the other two gauges I have (oil pressure and water temp), but when it comes to reading, it never gets any level of any sort. So does that mean that it IS detecting the start and there's an issue with the gauge itself ?

krijpipudht

Brown wire is for dimming.

Check this thread for wiring.
Also jskup1 suggest that we can use TPMS module wire to power it up.
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=165133

I will try it during weekend.

coilback

Hate to drag up an old thread, but I was the one who started it, heh. So I still have the same gauges as mentioned in the beginning. They still work the same way (i.e. I never got the Volt gauge working). I'm about to replace them with the same brand/model but without the smoke lens cover (they've always been hard to read in the day) - mainly because I don't want to have to re-run the sending units - just want to plug and play so to speak. I read the other thread that was linked here and attempted searching as well with no luck still. Has anyone ever figured out a solution to where we would need to hook up the missing wire for the Volt gauge ? With all the issues I've had with my battery, I'd LOVE to actually be able to really monitor that.