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Old 04-11-2008, 05:17 PM
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Nice man---will have to look out for some chill charger ---i think i have seen it up this way.

I always thought the wider the plug gap you could get away with the better? But, then again my errrr---our shrink probably is the one that told me that. By the way which of my personalities does he like the best? I bet it's Roscoe, everyone likes Roscoe. dang him anyway.

nice place to take the iat's---i wonder what is the "danger " zone?
cant wait to see the data log from the runs.
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Nice man---will have to look out for some chill charger ---i think i have seen it up this way.
You might want to check with Ray. Took only two days to arrive after I placed my order and great price too. Also, if you do so, make sure to have your name added to the BHR frequent buyer program or BHR-FBP.
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Hilarious, Juan!

The DEI stuff is only a few bucks a bottle so I try and bundle it up with other products, like spark plugs, etc., so the $8 shipping charge doesn't kill me.
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On another subject. I installed NGKs 10.5 on the leading side and relocated the NGKs 11.5 I was running in the leading side to the trailing side both gapped at 28. Also, I changed my Magnecor 8.5mm wires to MSD 8.5mm Super Conductor (you have to fab your own). I measured the resistance of the Magnecor (only 5k on them) to the MSD and the difference was astronomical. I had to change the scale (down) of my multimeter in order to get a reading of the MSDs after checking the resistance of my old Magnecor. The car feels way more responsive but no dyno to confirm/compare data.

Man, I wish I had a dyno in my garage.
Plugs worked fine during my Sunday trip to Gainesville, FL but I'm going to increase the gap to 40 since .04 is the gap recommended for the GM LS2 engine.

Any suggestions?
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I would go to 35 to start and make sure you keep a washer on it.
Clean the hell out of the sparkplug holes especially the gap (non threated) between the plug tip and the combustion chamber. Also I was surprised how much anti seze build up--even though I was calling myself cleaning it off whenever I changed the plugs.
How did the data collect go?
I have my intake temp gauge in now and on the way to work this morning(42F ambient) approx 8 miles of city driving --top speed 6omph---intake temp was 60F!!! Got up to 72F climbing the parking lot decks!
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I have my intake temp gauge in now and on the way to work this morning(42F ambient) approx 8 miles of city driving --top speed 6omph---intake temp was 60F!!! Got up to 72F climbing the parking lot decks!
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I consistantly see about 30degF above ambient on the highway. Stop and go it climbs to about 40degF above ambient. This is measured by the ECU over OBD2 with the stock IAT thermistor bulb transplanted to the upper intake manifold.

I've been told by more than one person that knows better than I that anything above 120degF is danger zone.
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Originally Posted by olddragger
I would go to 35 to start and make sure you keep a washer on it.
Clean the hell out of the sparkplug holes especially the gap (non threated) between the plug tip and the combustion chamber. Also I was surprised how much anti seze build up--even though I was calling myself cleaning it off whenever I changed the plugs.
How did the data collect go?
I have my intake temp gauge in now and on the way to work this morning(42F ambient) approx 8 miles of city driving --top speed 6omph---intake temp was 60F!!! Got up to 72F climbing the parking lot decks!
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Thanks for the tips.

I'm actually using old plug washers (one per plug).

AIT looks about average 20~30 degress above ambient temps. Now add a chill bottle and you will see them drop a bit more. Yesterday driving to Gainesville, average highway speed 80 mph, ambient at 60 and AIT at 80 degrees.

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i got chill in it. i also have the rb scoop suppling. looking good to me.
I wonder how the tune is taking into consideration the differences? With a pull through system it seems there would be more of a difference between what the maf is telling the pcm and what is getting to the engine. Wonder how they scaled that.
All that stuff confuses me.
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i got chill in it.
How do you like it? Any comments on the chill stuff?
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better than redline for sure---like it ---may try the radiator version next.
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better than redline for sure---like it ---may try the radiator version next.
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Nice!

I was thinking doing the same but I'll wait for your try and feedback.
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1st water meth going on this w/e and helping Silvereight put some gauges in.
I also really have my eye on a trans brace like you have.
Ray will be testing his intercooler at Roebling with me next month --stay tuned.
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Has anyone heard of or seen any work done by JHB racing?
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The place in Canada? You might be thinking of JHB Performance and I have tried, repeatedly, to get back in contact with Marc but he hasn't returned my inquiries.

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Well, looks like were going to start working on my 8 next week. I dont now how long its going to take but as long as its done rite, who cares.
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well at least you know yours will be done right lol
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Originally Posted by olddragger
1st water meth going on this w/e and helping Silvereight put some gauges in.
I also really have my eye on a trans brace like you have.
Ray will be testing his intercooler at Roebling with me next month --stay tuned.
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Hey Denny: since your bad experience with your LC1 wideband, I dumped mine on eBay, but I'm reconsidering installing one. What would you pick now? Even with the EFI Dude, I'd like to have realtime AFRs just for grins.
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Might you guys consider this?;

http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=67

I am outfitting Phil with a few AEM gauges soon.

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Some of my friends have those they are bad ***! They all have been working great.
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I used to push the DynoTune gauges but Phil and I recently decided to try something else for him and I got him the 30-4100 A/F, the 30-4406 boost gauge, and a 30-4402 temp gauge for his transmission fluid.
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What I am leaning toward at present is the Zeitronic brand. Heard good things and not as fragile as the innovate. Currently innovate has my gauge under the warrenty --have to go through the progess before i can request a refund. i will try it once more, but have little faith. Look on the Innovate forum under the lambda cable section for more feedback.
You go Moon--hope you are doing some internal work/mods on your engine?
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Ray you are correct it is JHB performance not racing.
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I was trying to get back in contact with Marc Couture from JHB to see about including their OMP mod as part of my stainless tank kit, especially for the front-mount turbo guys. I don't know why he hasn't returned my mails but I suppose I'll try again and see if he wants to sell 50 units or not.......
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Might you guys consider this?;

http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=67

I am outfitting Phil with a few AEM gauges soon.
hey Ray....are the AEMs more reliable than the autometer?
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Though I use the Innovate LC-1, the PLX is the best integrated WBO2S/gauge system.


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