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Old 04-18-2008, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by shinka213
hey Ray....are the AEMs more reliable than the autometer?
I haven't set them side by side with a baseline unit so I don't know. I guess maybe a magazine has done a comparison article or, maybe if Jeff and I have some spare time during one of my trips west, we could do our own comparison.
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My Autometer is almost dead on with my stock Wideband.

Just be sure to set the Stoich to the right number.
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Originally Posted by Kane
My Autometer is almost dead on with my stock Wideband.
My view on that comparison is that the Autometer must be pretty accurate then

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Just be sure to set the Stoich to the right number.
Just use Lambda FFS!!!

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You can Hymee - but the setting on the gauge itself allow you to change your lambda (for alternate fuels); if you mess with it (like I did) it will give you some messed up values.
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OK, I misunderstood - The Autometer is not Lambda? FFS. You really are changing the stoich value for the various fuels, not the lambda. Lambda is independant of fuel, as you know. 1.0 is stoich for everyfuel, from gasoline to methanol to nitromethane to diesel.

Lambda, Lambda, Lambda.....

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Really, the question isn't about "accuracy" but driver methods.
All of the top gauges appear to be pretty accurate.
However, it is important to take into consideration the controller circuitry employed.
One of the bad things about the Innovate stuff is their "switching" controller, which eventually leads to sensor failures.
I'm not up to speed on the other options, so caveat emptor.

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Lambda, Lambda, Lambda.....
Absolutely correct. We should all be chastised for using AFR because it is really not a good way to do things.
Even gasoline will change AFRs at the same lambda as a result of different localities and formulations.
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just when i think i am starting to learn some things yall go and change it!
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just when i think i am starting to learn some things yall go and change it!
lol. Sorry.
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Originally Posted by Hymee
OK, I misunderstood - The Autometer is not Lambda? FFS. You really are changing the stoich value for the various fuels, not the lambda. Lambda is independant of fuel, as you know. 1.0 is stoich for everyfuel, from gasoline to methanol to nitromethane to diesel.

Lambda, Lambda, Lambda.....

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Ok you got me. But you STILL have to set Stoich or Lambda of 1 on the gauge face if you want to change fuels. And while messing with your scale and other options on the Autometer it is still possible to mess with that setting. It comes preset for gasoline from the factory.
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This is your plug.
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This is your plug on meth.
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Any questions?

My car is hooked on meth and BHR is my supplier.
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I also hope to break you of your addiction, Juan, with my next offering.
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Man! Them's some stubby fingers!

Good endorsement for the water injection, though...
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Man! Them's some stubby fingers!
You are correct my friend.

BTW shoe size is 11.
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Okay, Obama.........
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Originally Posted by marsredr100
You are correct my friend.

BTW shoe size is 11.
Stubby toes, too?
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I wear Church shoes..........
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I also hope to break you of your addiction, Juan, with my next offering.
ray,

an idea for your tshirts.

front / bhr racing.

back / first ones free.

beers
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Plugs look great---now just imagine what the rotors are looking like.
Install my today---finally--- a 175 nozzle came with the kit so i will be using that---pre blower. Set the controller at 3 and full on at 4.8?
Mine will be a trunk mount with the 7 quart size tank---wish I knew how to post pics!!!
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if you are using meth how "user intensive" is it? ie how often do you have to check levels / fill up, and so on?

Also is it always on? or is it triggered by a temp sensor, a throttle sensor or whatever?
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Originally Posted by california style
if you are using meth how "user intensive" is it? ie how often do you have to check levels / fill up, and so on?

Also is it always on? or is it triggered by a temp sensor, a throttle sensor or whatever?
If his is setup like mine; MAF sensor triggered.

Juan; Are those new plugs that were never carboned(they stayed clean), or did the methanol actually clean them?

Just wondering if my plugs are that clean now...
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Originally Posted by california style
if you are using meth how "user intensive" is it? ie how often do you have to check levels / fill up, and so on?

Also is it always on? or is it triggered by a temp sensor, a throttle sensor or whatever?
I have a switch to turn on or off before and after using the car but it is ALWAYS on while driving.

My Snow Performance controller is set for MAF (can also be set for Boost) and it receives the signal from the yellow/red wire that is located on the MAF connector.

The controller has two other control *****. One for turning the pump on and the other to control when to apply full voltage to the pump.

I'm using a 100/ml nozzle per blower and used less than an 1/8 of the OEM windshileld washer bottle after over 400 miles and an autocross event.
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Originally Posted by Rote8
Juan; Are those new plugs that were never carboned(they stayed clean), or did the methanol actually clean them?
That picture is of one of the NGK 10.5 that I installed about 600 miles ago and I took out to re-gap from .028 to .035. The trailings NGK 11.5 looked exactly the same an have about 1500 miles.

The dirty plug picture is of a OEM plug I have before the meth kit installation and with @ 1500 miles since original install.
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Originally Posted by olddragger
Set the controller at 3 and full on at 4.8?
Yeap, that's a good start. Mine is set at 3 and full at 3.5 due to the 100/ml nozzle that I'm currently using.


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