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Old 04-08-2008, 07:54 PM
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I personally find it hard to believe, but I won this thing! It "theoretically" will be delivered to our local Mazda dealership early next week. I say theoretically because I was notified in December! Have you seen it in person? Its an auto, but its supercharged. What can I expect.? I'm an old piston head(and I do mean old), and a rotary will be a new experience.
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I know what you mean-----oldragger
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Originally Posted by BLYNCH
I personally find it hard to believe, but I won this thing! It "theoretically" will be delivered to our local Mazda dealership early next week. I say theoretically because I was notified in December! Have you seen it in person? Its an auto, but its supercharged. What can I expect.? I'm an old piston head(and I do mean old), and a rotary will be a new experience.
I saw your car very recently... it's a 6 speed AT, and it's supercharged, which means you'll have a lot of fun with it. First thing I'd do is sell the sound system in that thing and use the proceeds to buy myself a small country.

In spite of it's show-car qualities, it runs great, it turns heads, and it hauls ***, so you'll definitely enjoy the hell out of it. Hopefully they gave you a break on the value of the car, because taxes on 72k really sucks. Enjoy it man, and congratulations on becoming a Pettit Supercharger owner.
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Originally Posted by Phil's 8
Well I decided to jump on the Cobb AP flash to see if it improved my tune. If this is the same type of improvement that you m/t owners with the Pettit flash have then you will know that when I speak of the completely new and exciting car. When the Pettit s/c was first install I was (and still am) enthralled at the added performance but kinda missed the smooth stock feel. I figured it was gone forever and just a casualty of FI. There are still a few small bugs to be sorted out (lack of power from 2000 to 3000 rpm) but the whole stock smoothness is there again with the added punch of the supercharger. My a/t shifts like stock and actually loves shifting at 8500 rpm, that pesky cel is gone and my idle is now dependable and steady.

MazdaManiac spent two three hour sessions installing the system, finding the best tune and doing his best to explain what was happening and why. He did the install because this was a first, a four port a/t with a supercharger. Since the purchase of my Pettit supercharger, this was the best mod that I have purchased.

Additional power, well it feels a little faster from 3000 up but Jeff was interested in the best tune all thru the complete range before looking for more power. He was impressed and commented "this car will be a real screamer".
Have you tracked it yet? How fast is your A/t, i.e. faster than a 350Z or what? I am using your buildup as a blueprint - I plan to go the F/I route in my 4 port in about a year.
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Have you tracked it yet? How fast is your A/t, i.e. faster than a 350Z or what? I am using your buildup as a blueprint - I plan to go the F/I route in my 4 port in about a year.
No I don't competitively race on a track but I do put in track time. It is a lot faster than a stock 350Z but have not gone up against any FI versions of the 350. My track laps make the 350Z look sick.
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congrats Blynch!, now that's what I call a win!
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DEI Chill Charge

Well people another researcher and findings from yours truly.

I read about this product DEI Chill Charge and ordered a bottle from BHR since no local auto parts store carries it even though the DEI website states that it is available at Advance Auto and Pep Boys. I tried both and all I got was a blank stare from the parts department people. Anyway here is what DEI claim.

“Chill Charger™ for water-to-air intercoolers maximizes thermal transfer to lower air intake temperatures while also protecting core corrosion, electrolysis and harmful mineral build up. By effectively transferring water that circulates through the intercooler Chill Charger™ reduces liquid heat soak in high performance turbo and supercharger systems.”

I could not find any information about the chemical properties in the DEI website or the bottle itself.

So here are the air intake temperature AIT results of various runs from 1st to 3rd gear (0 to 100 mph) WOT and 80 degrees ambient temperature.

1st pass…meth off, no chill charge added. AIT 130 degrees
2nd pass…meth on, no chill charge added. AIT 126 degrees
3rd pass…meth off, chill charge added. AIT 125 degrees
4th pass…meth on, chill charge added. AIT 119 degrees

I also notice that the AIT dropped dramatically after the 3rd and 4th pass.

Bottom line…the stuff really works plus got rid off the foaming (bubbles) inside the reservoir.

Get with Ray at BHR and buy yourself a bottle or two before DEI decides to take it out of the market.

I figure that I will be able to attain even lower AITs once I receive my (on back order forever) BHR Inter Cooler Heat Exchange radiator.
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Old 04-09-2008, 11:06 PM
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I figure that I will be able to attain even lower AITs once I receive my (on back order forever) BHR Inter Cooler Heat Exchange radiator.
Juan, this statement implies that my exchanger is finished and slow to get to production. This is not the case. I made the first one, which is currently on Phil's car, a little too large to fit quite as nice as I wanted. The second version, which will also be test-fitted on Phil's car soon, should fit as I want and as soon as I verify that I will build as many as 10-15 units. This will all happen in the next three weeks.

In reality, you have always been a strong supporter, and friend, to BHR and have wanted one of my I/Cs since you first heard about it.

BTW, Phil likes what he has seen from my I/C and I am certain everyone else who gets one will, too.
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how often do you have to use stuff like the chill charge etc?

Do you just add it once and its done for the year?

Or is it a once a week type thing?
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Originally Posted by california style
how often do you have to use stuff like the chill charge etc?

Do you just add it once and its done for the year?

Or is it a once a week type thing?
From the back of the bottle:

"DIRECTIONS FOR USE: Simply add one bottle of Chill Charge to intercooler reservoir then fill with water. When adding to a full reservoir, add bottle and run cycle pump for several minutes to mix completaly."

Basically drain about half of your reservoir water content, add chill bottle content, run intercooler pump and finally add water to top it off. I personally use distilled water (no minerals).
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Juan, this statement implies that my exchanger is finished and slow to get to production. This is not the case. I made the first one, which is currently on Phil's car, a little too large to fit quite as nice as I wanted. The second version, which will also be test-fitted on Phil's car soon, should fit as I want and as soon as I verify that I will build as many as 10-15 units. This will all happen in the next three weeks.

In reality, you have always been a strong supporter, and friend, to BHR and have wanted one of my I/Cs since you first heard about it.

BTW, Phil likes what he has seen from my I/C and I am certain everyone else who gets one will, too.

Meh, Phil doesn't need one (just kidding).

Just like meth, I must have it. Well, my car does at least…BTW same goes with the pulley kit. Therefore, pass the word to the BHR parts department folks that I need the stuff pronto. Summer is rapidly approaching here in Florida plus my VA shrink doctor recommended more refinements to my SC in order to take care of the
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Masred: Any opinion on whether Chill Charger is a step up over Water Wetter? Thanks for the info on temps with the Chill Charger added.
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Masred: Any opinion on whether Chill Charger is a step up over Water Wetter? Thanks for the info on temps with the Chill Charger added.
As a matter fact that is exactly what I was running in my IC. The Chill Charger looks different, smells different, taste different…err I take that last one back but I did noticed that the consistency of the product is a bit different than the Water Wetter. Regardless, the stuff really works and is not that expensive.
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On another subject. I installed NGKs 10.5 on the leading side and relocated the NGKs 11.5 I was running in the leading side to the trailing side both gapped at 28. Also, I changed my Magnecor 8.5mm wires to MSD 8.5mm Super Conductor (you have to fab your own). I measured the resistance of the Magnecor (only 5k on them) to the MSD and the difference was astronomical. I had to change the scale (down) of my multimeter in order to get a reading of the MSDs after checking the resistance of my old Magnecor. The car feels way more responsive but no dyno to confirm/compare data.

Man, I wish I had a dyno in my garage.
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Originally Posted by marsredr100
Meh, Phil doesn't need one (just kidding).

Just like meth, I must have it. Well, my car does at least…BTW same goes with the pulley kit. Therefore, pass the word to the BHR parts department folks that I need the stuff pronto. Summer is rapidly approaching here in Florida plus my VA shrink doctor recommended more refinements to my SC in order to take care of the
Phil first - Phil needs all refinements If it works then everybody else can get them. My shrink is half a bubble off as he recommends that I buy one of BHR's clutches
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Hi Juan,

What I meant about the Charge Chill stuff was how often do you have to top it up, not how you add it.

Ie do you have to refill the IC water tank with a new charge chill bottle weekly / monthly / yearly?
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I don't think this stuff evaporates. Not easily, anyway.
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Originally Posted by california style
Hi Juan,

What I meant about the Charge Chill stuff was how often do you have to top it up, not how you add it.

Ie do you have to refill the IC water tank with a new charge chill bottle weekly / monthly / yearly?
Robbie,

As far as I know is add and enjoy. I'm heading to Gainesville Sunday (3 hour drive each way) plus track time while there. I will let you know if I notice any changes (i.e. evaporation, discoloration, etc) Monday morning.
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cool. Have a fun AutoX.

Im off for another airfield muck about on the 21st April, with a couple of RX8s and some MX5s. Should be fun!
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Originally Posted by marsredr100
On another subject. I installed NGKs 10.5 on the leading side and relocated the NGKs 11.5 I was running in the leading side to the trailing side both gapped at 28. Also, I changed my Magnecor 8.5mm wires to MSD 8.5mm Super Conductor (you have to fab your own). I measured the resistance of the Magnecor (only 5k on them) to the MSD and the difference was astronomical. I had to change the scale (down) of my multimeter in order to get a reading of the MSDs after checking the resistance of my old Magnecor. The car feels way more responsive but no dyno to confirm/compare data.

Man, I wish I had a dyno in my garage.
Juan, you said before you had to play with the magnecors to get them to fit. Do the MSDs mate right up, or do you have to adjust them as well?
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Juan, you said before you had to play with the magnecors to get them to fit. Do the MSDs mate right up, or do you have to adjust them as well?
I used a MSD universal wire set that I had and yes you do have to adjust the coil ends. Not a big deal unless you want to spend over $120 for a new MSD wire set that fit LS2 coils.
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Originally Posted by BLYNCH
I personally find it hard to believe, but I won this thing! It "theoretically" will be delivered to our local Mazda dealership early next week. I say theoretically because I was notified in December! Have you seen it in person? Its an auto, but its supercharged. What can I expect.? I'm an old piston head(and I do mean old), and a rotary will be a new experience.
Ive driven it and I have to say your not going to be dissapointed at all. Loose the wing, loose the stereo cause between the 2 it makes the back very slide happy and makes it feel way loose.
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Juan ---"The Man"
few questions on all this good info
1- with the ls 1 coils -pushing a little through the resistance on the wires shouldnt make that much difference? Why are the plugs gaped so close? Shouldnt have to worry about blowout with those coils?
2- where are you measuring the iat's from---probably the upper intake manifold?
3- Chill Charger--same as redline water wetter?

i wonder if your VA shrink knows mine?
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Juan ---"The Man" Not even close
few questions on all this good info
1- with the ls 1 coils -pushing a little through the resistance on the wires shouldnt make that much difference? Why are the plugs gaped so close? Shouldnt have to worry about blowout with those coils?

The new NGKs came OEM gapped at 28. Therefore I left them like that and gapped the NGKs 11.5 the same way. Any suggestions are more than welcome.

2- where are you measuring the iat's from---probably the upper intake manifold?

My AIT sensor is located right before the lower intake manifold. Drilled/Tapped a hole 45 degrees from the original Pettit AIT sensor.

3- Chill Charger--same as redline water wetter?

Don't think so. Most have intergalactic Yu-Yu juice* in it cuz the chemical composition is not listed on DEI's website or even on the bottle.

* Not approved to be sold in the USA.

i wonder if your VA shrink knows mine?

Negative, it is the same guy. We sometime chat about your problems. Very interesting stuff I must say.

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DEI Chill Charge

No foam, No bubbles.

Watch the video link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYATYXeuC8c


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