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#1726
Lola, speaking for myself, I'm glad to see you here. This is the kind of positive effort I hope for when I come to these forums. With the advent of the EFI Dude and being able to download new tunes and tweaks, I think now this S/C system is getting into the realm of Best In Class.
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For those of you thinking about adding a meth kit to your car. We ran several dyno pulls yesterday with various meth spray nozzle configurations in order to really find out what works and what doesn’t.
All pulls were done with a malfunctioning intercooler (water pump works fine but somehow there is a water flow restriction problem somewhere around the two front mounted radiators). I’m going to work on that issue today. Also, all dyno pulls were restricted to 8,000 rpm. I told Cam that I was not interested in running the engine up to 9,000 rpm since I had a three hour drive back home and did not wanted to risk it.
Here are the findings:
1st pull (meth off) 283 whp
2nd pull (meth on) with a 225 ml nozzle before SC and a 100 ml nozzle after SC 268 whp
3rd pull (meth on) with a 225 ml nozzle before SC 270 whp
4th pull (meth on) with a 100 ml nozzle after SC 273 whp
5th pull (meth on) with a 100 ml nozzle before SC 281 whp
Bottom line:
The best pull with the meth kit on was the one with just a 100 ml nozzle before the SC (located just after the throttle body).
There was a decrease of 2 whp with the meth kit on but keep in mind that for the most part meth will not increase hp but rather assure no (or decrease the chance) of detonation and will buy peace of mind when pushing your FI system/engine to its limits.
Also, my current A/F ratio is very conservative (I can't exactly remember the numbers) and there is a lot more room for improvement. I do now have an EFI Dude and after (hopefully) I get done today resolving my intercooler water flow issue, will take the car for a drive and will post a couple of graph with my A/F ratios later today or tomorrow.
All pulls were done with a malfunctioning intercooler (water pump works fine but somehow there is a water flow restriction problem somewhere around the two front mounted radiators). I’m going to work on that issue today. Also, all dyno pulls were restricted to 8,000 rpm. I told Cam that I was not interested in running the engine up to 9,000 rpm since I had a three hour drive back home and did not wanted to risk it.
Here are the findings:
1st pull (meth off) 283 whp
2nd pull (meth on) with a 225 ml nozzle before SC and a 100 ml nozzle after SC 268 whp
3rd pull (meth on) with a 225 ml nozzle before SC 270 whp
4th pull (meth on) with a 100 ml nozzle after SC 273 whp
5th pull (meth on) with a 100 ml nozzle before SC 281 whp
Bottom line:
The best pull with the meth kit on was the one with just a 100 ml nozzle before the SC (located just after the throttle body).
There was a decrease of 2 whp with the meth kit on but keep in mind that for the most part meth will not increase hp but rather assure no (or decrease the chance) of detonation and will buy peace of mind when pushing your FI system/engine to its limits.
Also, my current A/F ratio is very conservative (I can't exactly remember the numbers) and there is a lot more room for improvement. I do now have an EFI Dude and after (hopefully) I get done today resolving my intercooler water flow issue, will take the car for a drive and will post a couple of graph with my A/F ratios later today or tomorrow.
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Does your car have a wide band gauge or are you getting the A/F ratio from the ECU?
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#1731
Juan, please follow-up with Bill regarding my recent conversations with him on the I/C. My second proto is being built right now and when it fits like a glove and Bill flogs it for me, I will go to full-scale production with it.
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Lola, speaking for myself, I'm glad to see you here. This is the kind of positive effort I hope for when I come to these forums. With the advent of the EFI Dude and being able to download new tunes and tweaks, I think now this S/C system is getting into the realm of Best In Class.
Very classy people (and products).
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#1733
Gently letting off the clutch and letting the car smoothly move at a couple of mph seems like a feature that should have existed from the factory. Being able to smoothly cruise at 30 mph in 6th gear is also great (at 1500-2000 rpms), for those times where you're on a road that you wouldn't dare to speed on (roads with speed bumps/school zones/neighborhoods/in front of police stations
) and you want to save a few dollars on gasoline.
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If you want to get better gas milage, watch your boost guage and try to keep the vacuum as high as possible(ie..further away from WOT). Doing this I was able to gain an additional 50 miles to a tank.
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Juan--sweet info and JUST what I needed. Very close to installing mine---trunk mount 7 quart tank. Did you have to drill the pre blower spot or was it just a match. Where did you go with the power brake vacuum(the blower vacuum line?)
I rerouted my a/w cooler hoses to they are now just in series. I did this to make room for the rb air duct---works well and it seems that the intercooler in working great. It takes me a WHILE to warm the car up sufficiently to push her a little. 8K is my redline also.
My innovate LC 1 wideband SUCKS. I VERY carefully mounted and calibrated this thing and it worked for 1 1/2 days and DIED. No power--- cant do a damn thing with it. Tried it all. Their forum is full of problems with it--no more innovate for me --if it is this fickle---nope---i will do something. else.
Good point on the dyno----we are not tuning for the w/m system--it is for protection. Are you still running a cat?
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I rerouted my a/w cooler hoses to they are now just in series. I did this to make room for the rb air duct---works well and it seems that the intercooler in working great. It takes me a WHILE to warm the car up sufficiently to push her a little. 8K is my redline also.
My innovate LC 1 wideband SUCKS. I VERY carefully mounted and calibrated this thing and it worked for 1 1/2 days and DIED. No power--- cant do a damn thing with it. Tried it all. Their forum is full of problems with it--no more innovate for me --if it is this fickle---nope---i will do something. else.
Good point on the dyno----we are not tuning for the w/m system--it is for protection. Are you still running a cat?
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[QUOTE=olddragger;2376452]Juan--sweet info and JUST what I needed. Very close to installing mine---trunk mount 7 quart tank. Did you have to drill the pre blower spot YES If I remember right Snow Performance recommends as close as possible to the TB if you are running the after TB setup.
Where did you go with the power brake vacuum(the blower vacuum line?) NO See pix below
Good point on the dyno----we are not tuning for the w/m system--it is for protection. Are you still running a cat? NOPE and don't call EPA BTW none of my cars have a CAT except my wife's Mazda6
Where did you go with the power brake vacuum(the blower vacuum line?) NO See pix below
Good point on the dyno----we are not tuning for the w/m system--it is for protection. Are you still running a cat? NOPE and don't call EPA BTW none of my cars have a CAT except my wife's Mazda6
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For those of you thinking about adding a meth kit to your car. We ran several dyno pulls yesterday with various meth spray nozzle configurations in order to really find out what works and what doesn’t.
All pulls were done with a malfunctioning intercooler (water pump works fine but somehow there is a water flow restriction problem somewhere around the two front mounted radiators). I’m going to work on that issue today. Also, all dyno pulls were restricted to 8,000 rpm. I told Cam that I was not interested in running the engine up to 9,000 rpm since I had a three hour drive back home and did not wanted to risk it.
Here are the findings:
1st pull (meth off) 283 whp
2nd pull (meth on) with a 225 ml nozzle before SC and a 100 ml nozzle after SC 268 whp
3rd pull (meth on) with a 225 ml nozzle before SC 270 whp
4th pull (meth on) with a 100 ml nozzle after SC 273 whp
5th pull (meth on) with a 100 ml nozzle before SC 281 whp
Bottom line:
The best pull with the meth kit on was the one with just a 100 ml nozzle before the SC (located just after the throttle body).
There was a decrease of 2 whp with the meth kit on but keep in mind that for the most part meth will not increase hp but rather assure no (or decrease the chance) of detonation and will buy peace of mind when pushing your FI system/engine to its limits.
Also, my current A/F ratio is very conservative (I can't exactly remember the numbers) and there is a lot more room for improvement. I do now have an EFI Dude and after (hopefully) I get done today resolving my intercooler water flow issue, will take the car for a drive and will post a couple of graph with my A/F ratios later today or tomorrow.![Eyetwitch](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/eyetwitch.gif)
All pulls were done with a malfunctioning intercooler (water pump works fine but somehow there is a water flow restriction problem somewhere around the two front mounted radiators). I’m going to work on that issue today. Also, all dyno pulls were restricted to 8,000 rpm. I told Cam that I was not interested in running the engine up to 9,000 rpm since I had a three hour drive back home and did not wanted to risk it.
Here are the findings:
1st pull (meth off) 283 whp
2nd pull (meth on) with a 225 ml nozzle before SC and a 100 ml nozzle after SC 268 whp
3rd pull (meth on) with a 225 ml nozzle before SC 270 whp
4th pull (meth on) with a 100 ml nozzle after SC 273 whp
5th pull (meth on) with a 100 ml nozzle before SC 281 whp
Bottom line:
The best pull with the meth kit on was the one with just a 100 ml nozzle before the SC (located just after the throttle body).
There was a decrease of 2 whp with the meth kit on but keep in mind that for the most part meth will not increase hp but rather assure no (or decrease the chance) of detonation and will buy peace of mind when pushing your FI system/engine to its limits.
Also, my current A/F ratio is very conservative (I can't exactly remember the numbers) and there is a lot more room for improvement. I do now have an EFI Dude and after (hopefully) I get done today resolving my intercooler water flow issue, will take the car for a drive and will post a couple of graph with my A/F ratios later today or tomorrow.
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