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Old 03-18-2008, 11:41 AM
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have you reset the e shaft profile yet? thats the 20 or so stomps on the brake pedal that OD and others are calling the brake dance.
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for the shaft profile you must make 20 or so stomps on a wah wah pedal
(poor joke mainly for Charles' benefit)
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Which part was the joke? "shaft profile" or "wah-wah pedal"?
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Wah Wah? Man, this is the 21 century! Its an "expression pedal" these days.
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Cool

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Ahh, the irony.
I still haven't figured out why the Firefox spell checker thinks that is spelled correctly.
When you can pronounce rødgrød, I'll worry about how to spell religion correctly.



You don't need to do it on a dyno, but that would be the best way since the current load on the coils would be higher.
There is no particular reason not to do it that way, unless you are frightened of standing next to a Pettit supercharger on the dyno (since there is a pretty good chance of the drive mechanism coming apart at 5k).
A failed coil won't misfire - it just wont fire. Look for the dark cycles on the light.

However, you can just do it free-rev.
Even in neutral, a bad coil will fail at higher RPM.
Na, not afraid of the blower comming apart, just the car comming unglued from the dyno. I want you to try an experiment for me. Take one of the coils with white spots and lay it on your wet hand, take your other wet hand and hold the motor, then get some one to free rev to 9 grand and tell us if it tickles.
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Originally Posted by olddragger
I agree with Lola --the date logger will save you a lot of time and guessing. Sounds like you replaced all the right ignition parts with the install(the right way of doing it!).
You have the pettit pipe with the flash--thats right. So--
how old is your fuel pump? Any fuel starvation issues before?
Double check your ignition connections and check all vacuum lines. How do you have your vacuum lines hooked up?
Intake/charge temps should not be an issue if the a/w intercooler is working and your a/f's are "ok". Your detonation came at a realitivly low rpm also. Cam told me that the timing is very conservative on his flash.
The pedal dance should not apply since this was the 1st run you had after the install and your battery was out for a while?---doesnt hurt anything though.
Again data logger will solve it all--i plan on getting one REALLY soon.
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Orig fuel pump, only have 18000 miles on it. Going over to scan it now and will update later.

I did find out that I didn't put my AFR gauge in some weird mode. Called Autometer and they said it is locked and needs to be replaced.
Old 03-18-2008, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Moon Assad
Na, not afraid of the blower comming apart, just the car comming unglued from the dyno.
It won't if you strap it right (its not like you are putting down a ton of power), but, once again, the superiority of the DynaPack shows it self.

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I want you to try an experiment for me. Take one of the coils with white spots and lay it on your wet hand, take your other wet hand and hold the motor, then get some one to free rev to 9 grand and tell us if it tickles.
Any coil - good or bad - is going to blast you if you don't have it hooked up to a plug and wire. Electricity takes the path of least resistance.
However, why would you say a coil with a white spot is bad and then imply that it will still generate enough current to shock someone who is holding it?
Which is it? Good or bad?

If you stick a wet hand on a brand new coil and ground yourself on the chassis, it will blast you.
I presume you've tried this already, which would explain a lot.
Old 03-18-2008, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
I presume you've tried this already, which would explain a lot.
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Your not supossed to turn over anything with hot coils without grounding them, let me clarify a little, take a connected coil with white spots and lay it on your wet hand and see what happens. No, im not gona try it, if your rite about it not arking through the epoxy you shouldnt have anything to worrie about. What are you chicken bawk bawk.
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Originally Posted by Moon Assad
Your not supossed to turn over anything with hot coils without grounding them, let me clarify a little, take a connected coil with white spots and lay it on your wet hand and see what happens. No, im not gona try it, if your rite about it not arking through the epoxy you shouldnt have anything to worrie about. What are you chicken bawk bawk.

DISCLAIMER, kids dont try this at home, Jeffs a proffesional stuntman and nows what hes doing.
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The funny thing is that Moon is acting more professional now than I've seen him in the past.
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Well, I have my good days and bad.
Old 03-18-2008, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Moon Assad
Your not supossed to turn over anything with hot coils without grounding them, let me clarify a little, take a connected coil with white spots and lay it on your wet hand and see what happens. No, im not gona try it, if your rite about it not arking through the epoxy you shouldnt have anything to worrie about. What are you chicken bawk bawk.
As I noted earlier, white spots are not arcing. The hot side of the transformer is on top. If you have a coil with a broken down pot, it will zap you - it doesn't matter which side you grab.
I've gotten blasted by brand new coils - its about the tower and the plug wire, not the coil.

Try it yourself.
I won't make barnyard noises, don't worry. I wouldn't want to arouse you.

I suspect that you are the kid that got his tongue stuck to the tether-ball post in winter.
Old 03-18-2008, 06:30 PM
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Well dam, your not up to proving me wrong, ill do it with a new coil without white spots, but you gotta take the one with the white spots. Na, I never stuck my toung to a metal pole but ive talked a few guys into it. Hey Jeff, if you stick your toung to the freezer wall it wont stick, itl make you be able to taste better.
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Originally Posted by Moon Assad
Well dam, your not up to proving me wrong, ill do it with a new coil without white spots, but you gotta take the one with the white spots.
OK, you do that.
Old 03-18-2008, 06:36 PM
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perhaps a "non-secretor" ??

Old 03-18-2008, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by shinka213
perhaps a "non-secretor" ??

Nah. Plenty of secreting going on down there in Florida as far as I can tell.

Originally Posted by Moon Assad
Well, I have my good days and bad.
How can you tell?
Old 03-18-2008, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Nah. Plenty of secreting going on down there in Florida as far as I can tell.



How can you tell?

that statement doesnt make any sense jeff...do you know what a non-secretor is?
Old 03-18-2008, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by shinka213
that statement doesnt make any sense jeff...do you know what a non-secretor is?
I'm sure he didn't, but he'll pretend that he did, because he pretends to know everything
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Originally Posted by shinka213
that statement doesnt make any sense jeff...do you know what a non-secretor is?
Bringing up "non-secretor" didn't make sense. I was trying to save your joke.

Were two to intentionally secrete a substance on each other would be known colloquially as a "pissing contest".
I was alluding to that expression, figuring that you may not have noticed your own play on words in this discussion.
I guess I was correct in that assumption.
Old 03-18-2008, 07:21 PM
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bringing up "non-secretor" was being non-sequitor...
but i guess you missed my point

oh..and btw.....i dont need you to save my jokes...


PS....i just love it when you use the "multi-quote" function..
it shows you have a penchant for verbiage
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Good Luck with it Dog--let us know if we can be any help. Jeff i didnt ask the degrees of timing in particular --I am trying to learn but at present i really dont know what degrees are good or bad on the rotary.
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Originally Posted by olddragger
Good Luck with it Dog--let us know if we can be any help. Jeff i didnt ask the degrees of timing in particular --I am trying to learn but at present i really dont know what degrees are good or bad on the rotary.
OD
Its a range, depending on load and RPM.
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Well I pulled the codes tonight and this is what I found. Right away I pulled the codes from Sunday and had 2 P0300 (Random/multiple cylinder misfire) and P0301 Cylinder 1 misfire. I guess that could be a problem I have cylinders not rotors!

After I cleared everything and fixed the I/C pump, and changed fitting on the Intake manifold I started the car up again. It started nice and idled real good at about 1,100 rpm's. If I rev'd it a little I would occasionally get a flashing CEL that would go away after a few secs. It would come on if I let it rev slowly at about 2K rpms or once in awhile if I rev'd to about 4k. I then pulled the codes and got 2 more. P0301 again and P0410 (Secondary Air Injection System malfunction.

Cleared those and missed with the coil and plug connection on plug 1 and started the car again. This time it did the same thing with the occasional flashing CEL but only one code when I pulled it. I got the P0301 code again for Cylinder 1 misfire again.
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Originally Posted by zoom44
have you reset the e shaft profile yet? thats the 20 or so stomps on the brake pedal that OD and others are calling the brake dance.
No I haven't done this. Is this something that needs to be done? Would this resolve the issue I've got?


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