Bastage

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Regardless of how many times your parents called you stupid or smacked you on the back of the head for doing or saying stupid things, I think we can all assure you that you're not stupid. Please stop elevating your self-image/esteem by putting other people down. Somebody give this guy a hug.

I'm not a "psychiatrist," but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

MazdaManiac

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Ray is much more reputable than Pete was, but they are still an "old school" rotary shop in most ways.
If you ever want to get an interesting perspective on PFS past dealings, read THIS thread.
Fact is, they all are old-school shops for the most part. There are very few places that have come up to speed with regards to engine management tuning on the RX-8.
That is why you see so many places trying old school techniques and management systems with mediocre results at best.

Your two best bets are KD Rotary near Reading and JPR in Atlantic City.
Really, neither of those places are tuning shops, but they are good rotary mechanics and they can probably point you in the right direction.

If you are trying to tune using the EFI Dudes tool set, you are going to be on your own.

Rotr8

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thanks for the input, I do realize that they stay in thier comfort zone, my freind had a moderatly tuned FD putting down 450WHP, and he voiced the same arguments I was just hoping for a somewhat local Rene tuner... Ill look into both of these shops,,,

Red Devil

Dave at KDR is great.

MazdaManiac

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The problem isn't really that the motors are different.
Rather, its that the older engine management options are incompatible.
The Int-X (an RX-8 specific port of the Microtech) is the only "crossover" EMS that past rotary tuners would have any familiarity with.
The other fantastically powerful stand-alone systems (AEM, Haltech, Motec, etc.) don't support the RX-8 without significant modification and all but one of the flash solutions are vaporware at best.
Even if they were fully supported, there aren't more than 1/2 dozen people in the world that can tune them.
Right now, there is only one RX-8 specific engine management that works 100% of the time, and there are precious few ways to get it tuned correctly.
The other issues (that are Pettit-specific and not insignificant) are already well documented here.

Rotr8

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Well I have read this whole thread and the issue non issues debat seems to stem from wether your a fanboy or wether your a skeptic,,, that said the things that OD and Juan are doing to improve the system is another topic eniterly

Phil's 8

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There are several owners doing ongoing improvements and at least one non owner also working on improvements.

Rotr8

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I assume you mean Charles R. Hill - BHR

Phil's 8

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Yes I do.

Rotr8

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Yeah one of the most important things I plan on having while I install is the BHR Rad and the Mazmart water pump...
-Phils obviously you have the AP do you have any criticism with it compared to the Int X
I ask because I have a Cobb distributer and tuner that is near me Agile Auto Performance(Subie, Evo tuner) and they can get me a really good deal on one..

Phil's 8

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I am not familiar with the tuners but I sure am with the Cobb AP. There is no comparison with the Interceptor X as they are two different types of units. My 8 went from having trouble with idles and a few other items to the smooth running car that I purchased. If it was not for the s/c whine, you would never know that FI was involved. I attribute the change to the AP and only wish it had been available earlier.

MazdaManiac

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Have they tuned one for FI on an RX-8?

Rotr8

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Yes, there have been 8s there rarely for tunes mainly for suspension tuning, there was one there for a turbo upgrade I dont know if he is a member here or not, Its a TIGray with the RMagic hood, MS B-pillars, MS wing,Greddy Turbo setup he was having a larger turbo swapped in ,,, I thought too large of a turbo woul dcause problems without a correct tune(as would any FI) but I dont know what happened to it??? It was sitting there for about a week and a half and I never saw it again...SO I dont know if it was ever 'tuned' or not

Rotr8

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Regardless if I choose the AP I would still purchase it through them... I have heard that yourself or Ray have a flash for the AP Petit setup though, unless I misread somewhere

MazdaManiac

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At the moment, there are no other sources for FI calibrations on the AccessPORT.
That should change at some point I'd think.
But, so far, there haven't been any notable successes at any of the other Cobb retailers.

Its still a custom affair with the Pettit because of its MAF tube (or effective lack thereof).
Once someone fits an AEM CAI to the Pettit, you are going to see some smiles.

TheWulf

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That's really funny, because I had a nice conversation about doing just that last week

Unfortunately my FI plans are not for this year...

Rote8

Isn't the AEM CAI tube a smaller diameter than the Pettit MAF tube?
I was planning a CAI, but I wanted to create one from PVC for a trial fit, then make one from Aluminum.

MazdaManiac

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The AEM is the proper diameter for the MAF (3.375" i.d.).
I don't know what the current Pettit diameter is. It changed a few times since the initial production run (when there wasn't a MAF tube at all).

olddragger

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wasnt the original kit ran by a standalone and didnt need the maf?
Doesnt the size of the maf tube and the tuning have a symbiotic relationship?
I am not having any probs at all with the flash. i have---good power-- 22-23 mpg at cruise, 16-17 around town. All systems work fine. I have a cel because i removed the cat and the secondary air pump. My mazsport igition upgrade works well also.
The AP is a good option but not the only one.
olddragger

MazdaManiac

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It was a MAP-based system, so the MAF was just left hanging from the brake master cylinder on a ZIP tie.

Yes. That is why it should be 3.375" i.d. and matching the overall specs that I have posted countless times here and elsewhere.

AP deletes those.

Trepanning is also an option to brain surgery.

Moon Assad

Hi sweety, how ya been. I see your still looking at kiddy ****, I coulda sworn that one gal in one of your pics was my buddys sister, and shes only 15 you dirty old man.

mysql

sounds like libel to me.

MazdaManiac

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If I thought he had any fiscal value, I'd consider it.
Its just entertainment at this point.

Moon Assad

Na, no need for meds. How about you, been taking yours????

MazdaManiac

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After all this time, you still don't realize what's going on, do you?
Spectacular!