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Old 07-11-2008, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by swoope
kinda, but when i move to the coast it will be naples!
Naples is awesome! We go there every couple of years for our anniversary (took the family there like 6 weeks ago). Here's a shot from our hotel balcony in Bonita Springs:



The beaches are definitely nicer on the west coast (if you ignore all the senior folk visiting from overseas wearing speedos).

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hey swoope, are we havin a house warming party?

i wanna come too
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Originally Posted by Bastage
Naples is awesome! We go there every couple of years for our anniversary (took the family there like 6 weeks ago). Here's a shot from our hotel balcony in Bonita Springs:
The beaches are definitely nicer on the west coast (if you ignore all the old ladies and old men in speedos).
Watch those off hand remarks about old people I'll have the AARP knocking on your door with a few more of those comments In this day you must be politically correct, try "Age Challenged". You to will join the ranks, it's just a matter of time
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Originally Posted by Phil's 8
Watch those off hand remarks about old people I'll have the AARP knocking on your door with a few more of those comments In this day you must be politically correct, try "Age Challenged". You to will join the ranks, it's just a matter of time


well put Phil!!!

i didnt wanna say anything, as it might reveal my true age....
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Originally Posted by Phil's 8
Watch those off hand remarks about old people I'll have the AARP knocking on your door with a few more of those comments In this day you must be politically correct, try "Age Challenged". You to will join the ranks, it's just a matter of time


Ok, I'll edit

Fixed!

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Old 07-11-2008, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Phil's 8
Watch those off hand remarks about old people I'll have the AARP knocking on your door with a few more of those comments In this day you must be politically correct, try "Age Challenged". You to will join the ranks, it's just a matter of time
Bastage don't be scared. By the time the AARP reps climb the stairs half would have had strokes and the other half won't remember what they were suppossed to be doing. Pretend it's Halloween and send them on their way.
Old 07-11-2008, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by munche187
Bastage don't be scared. By the time the AARP reps climb the stairs half would have had strokes and the other half won't remember what they were suppossed to be doing. Pretend it's Halloween and send them on their way.
I was thinking more along the lines of "It's ok, my front door is not wheelchair accessible," but I didn't want to be too much of an ***

Anyway, back on topic. I'm going to be in Miami on Saturday so I may be giving you a call.
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Originally Posted by swoope
kinda,
and 20 min after the shower, you going to have crazy 18% humidity!!!
beers
Almost unbearable - 18% is pure water isn't it???
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well put Phil!!!

i didn't wanna say anything, as it might reveal my true age....
You, young lady, are just a teenager in the scheme of things

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Bastage don't be scared. By the time the AARP reps climb the stairs half would have had strokes and the other half won't remember what they were supposed to be doing. Pretend it's Halloween and send them on their way.
Got a point there All will be out of breath and calling the building department because of the lack of handicap parking and access.

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I was thinking more along the lines of "It's ok, my front door is not wheelchair accessible," but I didn't want to be too much of an ***
Your local building department will be notified of that oversight - all entrances are now supposed to be wheelchair accessible and the first parking spot must be handicapped. only!!! Now, about not wanting to be too much of an ***............
Old 07-11-2008, 07:33 AM
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Give me a call this is my schedule for Saturday try and swing by. I'll be doing the driving school.

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This is how the track will be configured.

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dont set the maf controller to come on at 1volt man---look at the injection percentage curve--it will almost be straight up and you will be at 100% before you really need it.
My initial is at approx 2.5--2.75 (hard to see that small difference with max at about 4.5--4.75. Smooth your injection curve out. I know this reasoning seems back assward but that is how Snow has set the controller to work per their instructions.
I bet you are using a lot of volumne?
I probably will go back to the dual nozzle set up---cant argue with the testing--i just like to play.
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Originally Posted by olddragger
dont set the maf controller to come on at 1volt man---look at the injection percentage curve--it will almost be straight up and you will be at 100% before you really need it.
My initial is at approx 2.5--2.75 (hard to see that small difference with max at about 4.5--4.75.
I'd say 2.75 is way too low as well. That's only 50 g/sec of air or so.
My system is MAP based, but I have it start spraying at the equivalent of about 3.3 volts on the MAF, which is about 115 g/sec.

You aren't in boost below 100 g/sec.
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Originally Posted by olddragger
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I bet you are using a lot of volumne?
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Yeah, but I am getting 80 degree IAT when it's 95 degrees out side!
Old 07-11-2008, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by olddragger
My initial is at approx 2.5--2.75 (hard to see that small difference with max at about 4.5--4.75.
That’s also my setup. Also, the reason I spray before the blower is to not only to bring the blower temps down but also for not to shock the intake temps after spraying. If you only spray after the blower the temps with skyrocket after you are off boost. For example, let’s say your ambient temp is 90 degrees your AIT is 120 degrees after the blower and you are only spraying after the blower. Then you run your car on boost while spraying. Your AIT will go down while your blower and pressurized air temps go up. As soon as you get off boost your AIT will definitely will go up to 130+ degrees. However, if you spray before and after your AIT will remain constant for a few seconds after boost and will gradually will go up. If you only spray before the blower it will require more 50/50 water/methanol to achieve the same result. In my case I had to spray with a 225 ml nozzle pre blower in order to achieve the results that I getting with my dual nozzle setup of 100 ml before the blower and 60 ml after the blower. Basically 65 ml less of 50/50 water/meth and same results. In any case, anything above 225 ml (given the ambient temps/humidity conditions here in Florida) will decrease your whp instead of the other way around.
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Just to clarify. Is 160-170 ml of spray recommended for our setup??
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Originally Posted by morkusyambo
Just to clarify. Is 160-170 ml of spray recommended for our setup??
Snow recommends 175ml for up to 350 rwhp. (see chart on previous page which is copied directly from Snow's installation instructions)

Juan recommends one 100ml nozzle before the blower, and one 60ml nozzle after the intercooler, for a total of 160ml/min. This was where he found the best air temps and dyno results.
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Originally Posted by Bastage
Naples is awesome! We go there every couple of years for our anniversary (took the family there like 6 weeks ago). Here's a shot from our hotel balcony in Bonita Springs:



The beaches are definitely nicer on the west coast (if you ignore all the senior folk visiting from overseas wearing speedos).
Hmm, nice. I could get into some trouble running those mangroves on my ski . Might have to settup a meet there. As for beating on the older crowd thats just rudd, doing thatl **** them off, I mean there older and wiser, I bet some of them can even tell you what a Trex looks like. just kiddin.
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Just have to give Moon A huge Thanks he help me setup a way for me to run my car cooler at the track tomorrow. If it works I will post data logs and pics of the setup. I did some test runs and it is working great so far.
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Quick thread hijack.........here's an update Phil. https://www.rx8club.com/lounge-4/offical-re-broke-my-heel-long-150629/ I freakin re-broke my heel!

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Originally Posted by Mazurfer
Quick thread hijack.........here's an update Phil. https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=150629 I freakin re-broke my heel!

Dave
oh shyte Dave....what are we gonna do with you!!!

no more MT for awhile????

GL, get well soon!!
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Originally Posted by munche187
This is how the track will be configured.
Hey, how the event go? SHAAAARE with us. I know it was raining down there a lot of the morning (and part of the day). Hope you didn't have any traction issues.
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Hi every 1 i have a question do any of you know when the racing beat headers will come out. Also, Phil add me to the map lolllll. And for every1 with pettit 8s in miami or south Florida we should all have a meet in the near future!
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Originally Posted by Bco007
Hi every 1 i have a question do any of you know when the racing beat headers will come out. Also, Phil add me to the map lolllll. And for every1 with pettit 8s in miami or south Florida we should all have a meet in the near future!

I am waiting on the Racing Beat header as well....
The Ebay header is looking better everyday I am forced to wait.


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