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Old 04-28-2009, 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Rote8

Funny you should mention that.

I had the window open and there was a very, very strong odor of daiquiris in the air...

The question I now have to ask myself is: exactly how did you know that? I'll be needing to see your grocery receipts for the last two weeks, please
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I thought daiquiris were made with strawberry?
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not banana daiquiris
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I just gotta ask. When you hooked up the battery, did you turn the wheel lock-to-lock to recal the sps?

The DSC light can come on for a lot of reasons. That is the most common one, but there are others completely unrelated to anything in the driveline. For instance, unhooking the baro sensor will call up a dsc error.
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Originally Posted by california style
not banana daiquiris


I didn't now those existed. Should've figured though. Doh.
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you know come to think of it he may not have even been in a "boost" mode?
light cruise at low rpm/load?
I think the dsc was on but I seem too remember that the car was driven--turned off and restarted so that probably reset the pcm/dsc.
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I can not offer anything not already suggested but am going to be very interested in the out come so be sure and post what is found. I don't have a cat so I am hoping it is a cat related problem.
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Originally Posted by carbonRX8
The DSC light can come on for a lot of reasons. That is the most common one, but there are others completely unrelated to anything in the driveline. For instance, unhooking the baro sensor will call up a dsc error.
Um, no.

Try again.

DSC does not have anything to do with baro. I've disconnected my baro sensor before -- all I got was a CEL.

What, do you hypothesize, has the BARO sensor to do with DSC? (This should be interesting...)
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man just like good ole times in this thread,,,
Good Stuff...
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Originally Posted by olddragger
you know come to think of it he may not have even been in a "boost" mode?
light cruise at low rpm/load?
I think the dsc was on but I seem too remember that the car was driven--turned off and restarted so that probably reset the pcm/dsc.
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Keep in mind when the intake flashed the buypass valve would have slamed shut raising the boost preasure even higher then the energy generated buy the flame. It was mentioned before that with a belt driven supercharger it wouldnt have had any place to go but out the coupler.
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Originally Posted by joff
Um, no.

Try again.

DSC does not have anything to do with baro. I've disconnected my baro sensor before -- all I got was a CEL.

What, do you hypothesize, has the BARO sensor to do with DSC? (This should be interesting...)
I think he meant the MAF sensor.
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man just like good ole times in this thread,,,
Good Stuff...
You know, as bad as some were I kinda miss them also. Lets hope this starts a little interaction. I learned more during the disagreements than in the quiet times.
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Hi,

just finishing soon my pettit install !!

what kind of fluid do I put in the intercooler ???

thanks
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Originally Posted by Rotr8
man just like good ole times in this thread,,,
Good Stuff...
Originally Posted by JMKuco
Hi,

just finishing soon my pettit install !!

what kind of fluid do I put in the intercooler ???

thanks
Water with a bottle of water weter is what I used. You are going to town on the install - how about some pics.
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I'm learning from all of the discussion too. I've been through this thread a lot getting ready for the eventual Pettit SC I will be installing hopefully this fall.
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Originally Posted by Phil's 8
Water with a bottle of water weter is what I used. You are going to town on the install - how about some pics.
I read Water Weter does nothing special. I read some engineering reports on it and it does nothing to help cooling. It's a gimick. I have to skiddadle right now, but when I get back tonight I'll try to dig up the paper.

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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
I think he meant the MAF sensor.
I bet you're right, cause, they're like so similar and stuff. I mean, well, they're both colored black and all, how can Mazda expect people to know the difference.

Just be careful like carbonRX8 and don't forget to keep that there BARO sensor connected, cause your stuff blows up if you don't. You need super duper clutched pulley supercharger to survive the malfunction you get from misbehaving BARO sensors, yo.

I read Water Weter does nothing special. I read some engineering reports on it and it does nothing to help cooling. It's a gimick. I have to skiddadle right now, but when I get back tonight I'll try to dig up the paper
Water Wetter is mostly a fancy soap that keeps vapor bubbles small when coolant systems are operated near their boiling points. It will do about nothing beneficial on a small IC setup where temperatures are much below boiling. The lube and anti-corrosion additives may be of benefit though. I personally run straight distilled water with Prestone anti-corrosion additive.
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Is there sarcasm in your post, Jesse?
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Is there sarcasm in your post, Jesse?

Holy crap, what happened to all your posts. 2 days ago I saw you at 43xx posts, now you are down to a measly 3700 posts...
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If I had my way it would be lower than that.

Let's get back on-topic/point, shall we? We have an engine to diagnose.
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Originally Posted by zenrx8
I don't think the 09 injectors are that big of a mismatch for this setup, especially with the larger pulley. I've beaten myself already thinking I didn't get the injectors in the rail properly, but dammit I triple checked them before, during, and after re-installing the fuel rail, and then rechecked them after I did the ECU room fuse/idle reset, and there were no leaks. None. The car idled perfectly, ran through the gears well, but when I got on the gas in 3rd at 6k, it fell flat on its face, owing, I thought, to the DSC being active. Then I see 20 degrees of timing retard with large TPS values and figure that's the DSC at work; trouble is, at those points, the lamba is stil within ranges, so fuel is still being delivered, but not burned completely. After I realized the DSC or something was holding it back, I didn't try to romp on it any more, just wanted to get a feel for how the car was running. Took a total of three miles for it to grind to a dead halt.
what happens if the APV doesn't open due to carbon or some other malfunction? you would be injecting into the runners of a closed or semi closed port. carbon could be glowing near the port opening causing ignition...
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I cant say it enough CATS are bad, sorry Greg, I didnt mean kittys but it is a deffinat heat restriction causing uneeded stresses on your motor, more stress then I care to list. The less stuff you need to worrie about the better. Of corse im not telling you to modify any of your emissions stuff, you shouldnt buy law.
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Originally Posted by rotarenvy
what happens if the APV doesn't open due to carbon or some other malfunction? you would be injecting into the runners of a closed or semi closed port. carbon could be glowing near the port opening causing ignition...
no injectors on those ports ......
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!!! The Truth About WaterWetter (R) !!!

So I mentioned earlier I would find the engineering paper on why WaterWetter by Red Line Oil is bad to use. I can't find it. Instead I'll substitute a couple of reviews and a really good chemical analysis that basically outlines the fact that WaterWetter causes build up in silicone and plastic tubing and corrodes metal, which was in the engineering evaluation. That paper also did a thermal evaluation on the product and declared it did increase water's thermal capacity and helped carry away heat from the engine. But it was a marginal (almost negligible) improvement. Where WatterWetter supposedly shines, according to that paper, is it helps reduce hot spots on cylinder heads. Well... we don't have those things in our car, and I would think thermal dissipation in a rotary engine is much more even due to the fluid movement of the combustion chamber. So the gains are negligible and the product has potential to corrode parts, seals, housings, and gunk up tubes. Hm. Pick your poison, I guess.

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Water Wetter Review
Chemical Analysis of WaterWetter

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Originally Posted by JMKuco
Hi,

just finishing soon my pettit install !!
what kind of fluid do I put in the intercooler ???
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If there is any chance of a freeze, use some anti-freeze with that water.
If there is no chance of a freeze, go with distilled water and some Redline water wetter.


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