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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 08:23 PM
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But I like the woosh! sound :'(
Ricer....
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 08:25 PM
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yeah I reckon that would work because dividing by one would have no effect on the sc'ed side!
Are you sure about that?
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 08:36 PM
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Ricer....
NO! I just grew up with good old Knight Rider, and the sound reminds me of KITT
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 08:36 PM
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Are you sure about that?
phills 8 is the only one I have heard of.
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 08:38 PM
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There are more. The point though in the great turbo vs sc debate - is what caused the motor to go -- tune, ignition, fuel etc.... too many variables.

So when it comes to reliability the best way is to leave it alone - no one can know exactly.

Example ImportShowoff blew his motor on the Esmeril kit.... but why?!?!?!?!!? When I vac tested the Wastegate it was hosed.... hmmm - if the wategate is leaking boost and not opening and he was f-ing with his BC settings....do you think it might have gone kaput?!?!? But you never hear that - you hear "POS turbo blew my car up!?!?!!?!?!?!LEET111!!!!"

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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 08:39 PM
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meh..I'm a ricer....but only when it comes to bov sounds and turbo sounds...

at idle my CAI sounds bad ***. you can hear it sucking in air.
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 08:52 PM
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I'm about 150 miles away from having 20,000 boosted (1500 of those miles are with a 13psi pulley).

Original motor.

Pettit owners probably aren't paying Brettus any mind because he's not selling a competing product, plus I think all of us know he's just joking around.
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Bastage
1500 of those miles are with a 13psi pulley.

Original motor.
Goddamn thats a lot of boost.

Question for you guys, what MAF g/s were you guys getting NA and what are you seeing now that you are boosted? I'm trying to get a baseline idea to see the difference in flow from stock to where I am now, to when I go FI. I just saw my highest NA number so far tonight of 230 g/s. Is that decent for NA?
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 09:18 PM
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I'm shooting for 15 psi once I upgrade my injectors and get water/meth. Oh and when I can figure out what to do with the coil issue....Hopefully my motor isn't already toast from the recent misfire episode with BHR kit
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bastage
I'm about 150 miles away from having 20,000 boosted (1500 of those miles are with a 13psi pulley).

Original motor.

Pettit owners probably aren't paying Brettus any mind because he's not selling a competing product, plus I think all of us know he's just joking around.
I want an argument damnit
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 10:09 PM
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I have 15k on my kit most of it running 12-13 psi peak. Then again, I commute in my car alot so the portion of those miles actually spent at positive pressure probably isn't very high. The car still pulls 19-20" inches at idle.
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by blackenedwings
Goddamn thats a lot of boost.

Question for you guys, what MAF g/s were you guys getting NA and what are you seeing now that you are boosted? I'm trying to get a baseline idea to see the difference in flow from stock to where I am now, to when I go FI. I just saw my highest NA number so far tonight of 230 g/s. Is that decent for NA?
I didn't do any logging pre-FI, and currently my tune isn't ideal for the injectors I'm running, so I've only seen 330s.

Rote8 is getting 355 g/s with his tune, and the same pulley. We're both getting 19-20 inHg at idle.

230 g/s sounds pretty awesome for NA.
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Bastage
I didn't do any logging pre-FI, and currently my tune isn't ideal for the injectors I'm running, so I've only seen 330s.

Rote8 is getting 355 g/s with his tune, and the same pulley. We're both getting 19-20 inHg at idle.

230 g/s sounds pretty awesome for NA.
Cool, thanks Bastage! At the very least it will give me a point of comparison to see what percentage of flow I've gained by going FI. I know my modifications thus far have made a big difference because I was never close to 230 g/s before.
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 10:56 PM
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I'm at 374 g/sec at 8-9 psi.
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 05rex8
I'm shooting for 15 psi once I upgrade my injectors and get water/meth. Oh and when I can figure out what to do with the coil issue....Hopefully my motor isn't already toast from the recent misfire episode with BHR kit
I am sure you are fine.... you would know if there was a problem.

Just hang tight for Ray et al to figure it out.
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Kane
I am sure you are fine.... you would know if there was a problem.

Just hang tight for Ray et al to figure it out.
my vac is as low as -13....that's my concern.
idle is solid tho.

I sent em back for a refund already.
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 05rex8
I'm shooting for 15 psi once I upgrade my injectors and get water/meth. Oh and when I can figure out what to do with the coil issue....Hopefully my motor isn't already toast from the recent misfire episode with BHR kit
Originally Posted by 05rex8
my vac is as low as -13....that's my concern.
idle is solid tho.

I sent em back for a refund already.

What was you vac before? -13 / -14 is not too bad... some motors just do that - not sure why.... part of it seems to be where you put the vac sensor. If the motor makes good power and idle is rock solid you should be fine.
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 12:02 AM
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around 14-15...seems to like -13 more now.

my car is still fast though...I don't know. Weird. Probably nothing.
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 12:04 AM
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Get a compression test... it will answer the questions.
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 12:06 AM
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I wish I had my own tester...the mazda dealer here has a bunch of retards working for them...
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 12:11 AM
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Buy one - cheap insurance.... (of course I am still using an old school one - LOL)
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 12:12 AM
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I plan too...waiting on that digital one to be completed by a forum member....can't remember his name
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by rotarenvy
phills 8 is the only one I have heard of.
My engine failure (loss of compression) was not due to FI or boost - lack of oiling and overheating were the culprit's.
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
I want an argument damnit
OK, here's your argument:

Greddy Turbos pwn Pettit Superchargers in the cost/power department, unless you factor in the cost of rebuilding your engine.

Greddy Turbos pwn Pettit Superchargers in resales (see RX-8 Club Classifieds for proof, to my knowledge, no Pettit Supercharger kit has ever been resold), which begs the question, has a single Greddy Turbo kit ever destroyed engines in more than one car?

Nice torque curve btw. Looks relatively flat, unlike most turboed 8 torque curves I've seen.
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Bastage

Greddy Turbos pwn Pettit Superchargers in the cost/power department, unless you factor in the cost of rebuilding your engine.
Greddy Turbos pwn Pettit Superchargers in resales (see RX-8 Club Classifieds for proof, to my knowledge, no Pettit Supercharger kit has ever been resold), which begs the question, has a single Greddy Turbo kit ever destroyed engines in more than one car?
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Don't disagree here . However - with the AP and Protuner coming into being this argument is dissappearing fast . Unfortunately because the kit is cheap you are always going to get people who skimp on the tuning as well to save money . These people are at a higher risk of engine damage because of this .
Also I would say that because a turbo creates boost so early , this in itself creates a need for more precise tuning to prevent damage , than a SC .
So yes I do agree that a SC is easier on our motors . This can be overcome fortunately with good tuning etc.

Originally Posted by Bastage

Nice torque curve btw. Looks relatively flat, unlike most turboed 8 torque curves I've seen.
This is actually the point of my sig.
I think that my 306hp greddy will pwn your 330ish hp SC


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