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Mazsport Ignition Solution!

Old Feb 22, 2008 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Rocketman1976
I read the first two pages and see nothing of the grounding kit. I think he wants to know if it will help this ignition kit to be better or if you guys think it is a required item with this kit. I don't know if you were referring to "use the search option" but I would also like to know what this grounding kit does, is the car not grounded very well or what? Should I take my question elsewhere?

Only certain questions and certain people get answers in this thread. Other's interest and their questions are ignored or critisized. It seems to be more a sales thank you thread than a technical answers or proof of concept thread. I don't understand the point to it, but I see that is what happens. Hopefully it will change at some later point.
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 08:19 AM
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The only way to know for sure is if someone does a comparison. If I reflash my car with the turbo, I may try to do a dyno pull with the OEM coils and another with the Mazsport Coils. I won't do the comparison if I am running my Emanage Ultimate because it will require retuning and its just not worth the time. It will not happen for a couple of months and if I'm able to do the comparison I will post the results.
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Razz1
Ha ha I'd like to see that proof. Sounds like your a salesman.

I've posted the dyno sheets on here before. I dont sell anything I am a verizon telephone repair man not a Rotary performance salesman.

I dyno'd my car before and after at the same place Mazsport uses for their dynos called Race Related. Im working right now and I'll see if I have the dyno in my work laptop. I think it might have actually been around 17.8 hp I can't remember exactly, because it was almost a year ago. People on here have seen the dyno's, and I checked and don't have them on this laptop.

BTW the K & N, they let me dyno 4 times and I did one completely stock, then droppen in the K & N and gained 5.? rwhp, then they installed the exhaust and dyno'd again 2 more times. All that for $220, they are good people.

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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 10:58 AM
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I posted earlier that according to my gtec pro, I picked up 5 HP with the ignition solution and I only had 6K miles on my car so the coils were working just fine. If you know how a gtec pro works, you know that where and how you run the car makes a difference in the numbers, so i ran it in the exact same place, same tank of gas, same outsude temp and the same gear. I also ran it 3 times before and after and it was 5-6 HP more everytime with new igntion. Just so you know, I have the RB intake with scoop, RB catbcak and RP supercat. I was getting 200HP before and 205 after the igntiion solution.
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 11:13 AM
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I agree with you 100%, there was just some people asking about the HP gain on a N/A vehicle. I plan on going FI in the next year which was one of the main reasons I got it.
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
... the value they carry in allowing us to pursue power levels above 330 h.p., or so, is far greater than arguing over whether or not they add 5-10 h.p. on an N/A car.
From a functionality standpoint i agree with you (everyone wants to see the Renny above 400hp), but from a SALES standpoint, i would have to disagree. Prob 90% of the customer base for this solution will be N/A (just a prediction mind u). I mean think about man, how many people here have Turbo setups vs. N/A? Let alone ones that will make 400whp. For SALES purposes, realistically Mazsport would be better off targeting the N/A crowd with the FI crowd along with them, not the other way around. Either way it looks like a great product across the board for ANY application, so......
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 11:35 AM
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Honestly, given the (lackluster) quality of the OEM coils, this is an excellent purchase for any RX-8 owner. Ask your dealer how much they'll charge for new coils, wires and labor. Then consider that you may need new coils every 30k miles.

You're not paying $600 for a power adder. You're paying to make your ignition system what it always should have been.
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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True enough. The following is pure conjecture, but what the heck. What if the solution lasts twice as long as OEM? What if OEM contributes to blown engines through carbon buildup?

Never mind the fact that few people considering upgrades like this bother to have a shop install them. I do realize that some people have no desire to get dirty maintaining/upgrading their car. However, if popping your hood means your car is broken down...the RX-8 is not for you. The 8 should have a "you haven't popped the hood" CEL
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 12:26 PM
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No argument there.
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
The bottom line is......the Mazsport coils are well worth it.
What I have been saying the whole time
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
The bottom line is......the Mazsport coils are well worth it.

but mine aren't here when I need them
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 04:14 PM
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The only reason every one wants dyno results now is because they are inexpensively available and they knock down most of the possibilities of junk parts that give people no horsepower or a loss of horse power.

All of this stuff costs a pretty decent amount of hard earned money and no one wants to fall for the Electric Super Charger gag anymore

I don't blame anyone for wanting to see proven results, I still see products out there claiming giant horsepower gains with no proof. I saw an exhaust offered for the RX-8 that claimed 21 rwhp gain! It just makes you feel so much more confident that you have spent your money on something that works. We dont all know how the flow chart should read or what items can free up so much cfm, so it helps for it all to be simplified to a dyno test.

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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 05:14 PM
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Update!

Hey Guys,

10 more units were shipped today, check your email for confirmation.

It looks like we will be shipping another 10 units early next week!

Thanks guys, Scott
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 06:40 PM
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how much longer until these are a stocked item rather then a waitlist item?
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 06:43 PM
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10 items at a time is pretty good. Even if it was a stocked item they probably wouldn't be stocking more than ten at a time. Once the demand slows down I'm sure they will have some ready to order without a wait. BTW Turbo is better!
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 07:40 PM
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Yeah Scott...got my confirmation today! Woot!
Thanks Mucho!

Even though we know the Scanguage II is somewhat inaccurate in it's HP readings.............I wonder if I will be able to see any difference there?
Guess I will try to find out.................BUT......I didn't buy this as a HP increase mod and if any, it's a bonus plain and simple.

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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MazsportScott
Hey Guys,

10 more units were shipped today, check your email for confirmation.

It looks like we will be shipping another 10 units early next week!

Thanks guys, Scott
i must be dead last on the list then , waiting paitently here on the other side of the world
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 07:30 AM
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I received my FedEx confirmation number. Thanks Scott and Betsy1
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mysql
scangauge shows more hp with the turbo than when I had no turbo installed, so in a way it can reflect changes. However the scangauge also tells me I have over 600 hp sometimes, so I really would put no faith in its results since it can swing by such large margins.
Yeah, I know.......was just thinking that if I can get a consistent reading beforehand(at a given set of parameters) and then do the same after, I should at least get some idea. Ya know what I mean? I'll probably have to take up to three or four before and after readings and then look at the means and the std dev.
Still might not tell me anything other than to answer....."yes" or "no", and this would ONLY be slightly better than my butt dyno.
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by r0tor
how much longer until these are a stocked item rather then a waitlist item?
Very soon.
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by mysql
problem is that it's not measuring power, it's guessing based on some info it gets from the car sensors.
Yep...........agreed....but what the heck.
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 12:34 PM
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600? i hate u.
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 04:07 PM
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Well I put the car on the dyno and came away with crappy results. Seems like a great excuse to buy these coils.
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by pdxhak
Well I put the car on the dyno and came away with crappy results. Seems like a great excuse to buy these coils.

It seems as though there is no excuse to not buy the coils.
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 07:30 PM
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^ money
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